I think Coderre's just freelancing because there's no-one sufficiently in charge at Liberal Party headquarters to tell him to sit down and shut up. It's also worth noting that he considered a run at the Liberal leadership last year and that the job is likely to come open again in the next couple of years. Going to Afghanistan, pointless and self-serving as it is, is good publicity for a would-be candidate.

There's a joke making the rounds that the most dangerous place to be in Ottawa is between Denis Coderre and a camera; it may prove to be the case in Afghanistan as well.

Posted by: GDW at October 7, 2007 09:54 PM

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We just need to come home. We have no business being there.

Posted by: pissinginthetent.com at October 7, 2007 10:22 PM

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Dennis Coderre will return, red faced, hair slicked back with copious quantities of gell, jowls a flappin', his fat ass cheeks firmly clenched together and declare to hordes of MSM camera's and reporters that he looked high a low in Afghanistan and couldn't find any reconstuction work being carried out by Canadians. He will declare that his mission was thwarted at every turn by those despicable Harperite's, but using his Liebrano ingenuity he was able to get the facts on the ground.

We are there with Harper's Marauders with thier "really, really big guns" trained on a poor and innocent population of peaceful peasants who only want to be left alone to raise thier families in peace. Then he will recite all of the atrocities that our "war criminals" are carrying out on the same peaceful peasants. Here he will stop, gulp a few times, perhaps wipe away a tear and declare our mission must end now, just as Taliban Jack has said.

When asked by a brave young reporter, if it wasn't the Liebranos who sent the troops there in the first place, he will roar that they weren't sent there to kill and torture people, to howls of approval from all the senior MSM people, and the foolish young reporter will be fired as soon as he gets back to the office.

The Liebrano's, Dipper's and Bloc will huff and puff in unison accusing the blogger's of corrupting and planting foolish thoughts into the mind of said young reporter.

To be continued as more information becomes available.................

Posted by: capndan at October 7, 2007 11:27 PM

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MP Coderre also created a security breach on Friday's Mike Duffy Live by telling viewers/Taliban that Minister Bernier was going to be in Afghanistan at the same time as him. Is that why only hours before they arrived a US convoy was targeted, did the Taliban think that was the Canadian convoy carrying our MP's?
Even Craig Oliver thought it was a breach of security, http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20071006/afghan_bernier_071006/20071006/

Watch Craig Oliver on Coderre's shaky move.

Posted by: Hunter at October 7, 2007 11:49 PM

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Denis Coderre is the canadian version of Al Sharpton.

Posted by: rod at October 8, 2007 12:00 AM

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I have searched high and low, and could not find why Denis Coderre, as a member of the Standing Committee on Defence and Opposition critic on Defence, did not go to Afghanistan in January 2007 with other members of said committee.
He has been quoted as saying that it is his job to go on a fact-finding mission.
Was he then not doing his job in January?

Posted by: Gabby in QC at October 8, 2007 12:32 AM

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CTV Oct 8/07
''However, he (Coderre) has vowed that nothing he learns during the visit will change his opinion that Canada's combat mission must end by 2009.''

SO WHY GO?

Posted by: wilson61 at October 8, 2007 10:34 AM

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CanWest Oct 08/07
KANDAHAR AIRFIELD -- 'No matter what he learns on his "fact-finding mission" to Afghanistan, Liberal defense critic Denis Coderre said Monday that he AND HIS PARTY remained convinced that Canada must end its combat mission here when the current mandate expires.'

Proof this trip was merely a stunt, as no 'facts' found and the 'fact finding' mission will persuade Libs to change their position.

Posted by: wilson61 at October 8, 2007 10:49 AM

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Partisan blinders have been detrimental to the service of the Canadian public.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at October 8, 2007 10:49 AM

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Perhaps Denis Coderre, one of the Quebec Liberal malcontents, was sent on his fact finding mission by the new handlers of Dion. As long as he's over there, he's taking the focus off the crumbling Liberal Party and he's not stirring up puffin poop back home. Plus there's the added bonus of Kandahar being a very dangerous place.

Posted by: muttsrus at October 8, 2007 12:35 PM

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Plus there's the added bonus of Kandahar being a very dangerous place.

As a Tory partisan, I am certainly no fan of Denis Coderre, but I think this comment is entirely uncalled for.

Posted by: Brian in Calgary at October 8, 2007 01:20 PM

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This is all very well and good, CRB+Janke, but whose fault would this be? If Coderre is not meeting the right people, whose fault is that? If the NDP and Bloc critics are not in Afghanistan, whose fault is that?

Haper says he wants to build a consensus. He sure has a funny way of showing it!

Yes, Coderre is a stuntman. But Bernier, MacKay are all stuntmen. Well-coiffed airheads, the whole lot of them. They should be posing and prancing for the cameras. Together.

Posted by: at October 8, 2007 01:21 PM

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Coderre claims he is preparing the way for Dion's visit to Afghanistan some time in November. I'm betting that Dion will no longer be Liberal leader in November, and Coderre is just lying through his sharp lil' teeth .. and trying to tell Liberals this make believe that he is not involved with Dion's demise.

Posted by: Observer at October 8, 2007 01:38 PM

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To anon poster at 1:21,

For your information the House of Commons Defence Committee, including Bloc and NDP members, plus Lie-beral Carolyn Bennett were in Afghanistan in July.

Coderre is a buffoon of the greatest magnitude and you sound as if you're one as well.

Posted by: Bruce Randall at October 8, 2007 03:11 PM

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CRB lackey Bruce Randall writes: "For your information the House of Commons Defence Committee, including Bloc and NDP members, plus Lie-beral Carolyn Bennett were in Afghanistan in July."

Bravo chucklehead. In the US, Democratic Congressmen & Senators visit Iraq almost every month. Bernier was going to Afghanistan - your genius strategists couldn't get a Liberal (not Coderre - ok, but somebody else) and a Bloc and a NDP to go along with him? Imagine the photo-ops - solidarity with the troops with all parties present. And, if they had refused to go, fine - that itself would be a news story.

Coderre is a buffoon. No question. But, at least, he is not a braindead constipated dickwad like the fart-sniffing sycophants advising Harper.

Any wonder Harper cannot get above 33%! He has got Buckleroos and Randallies and dandies like Bernier and MacKay advising him.

Posted by: at October 8, 2007 03:31 PM

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Poor anon poster,

Obviously suffering a severe bout of Leftist Mental Disorder.

Oh, and dogs piss on poles. Was it not former PM Martin who declared, prior to the last election, that the Lie-berals would win the largest majority in Canadian history, according to the polls?

Cheers

Posted by: Bruce Randall at October 8, 2007 03:37 PM

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Posts at "The Torch" that Denis the Thug might well read:

A brilliant goal!

Say it with me...DE-VEL-OP-MENT

One project at a time

A nattering nabob of negativism

Mark
Ottawa

Posted by: Mark Collins at October 8, 2007 03:40 PM

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DION IS GONE ?

There seems to be no sightings of Liberal leader Dion anywhere.

Ignatieff and Coderre are the Liberals in the news now.

Should we anticipate an announcement this week or next that Dion has stepped down as Liberal leader?

Posted by: Ottawan at October 8, 2007 04:34 PM

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The total CIDA contribution to Afghanistan starting from 2001 will total over $616,000,000 through 2009. Prime Minister Stephen Harper has added another $100 million annually, promising that funding through 2011.

A massive expansion of the Canadian welfare state into cental Asia? Count me in! You know, this Stephen Harper fellow is my kind of politician.

BTW how did all the welfare work out east and up north in the territories? I expect all those infrastructure, education and jobs programs have done pretty well since I ramped them up back in the 70s. Probably those Maritimers and Inuit are now not only paying their way, but actually pulling the economic train along. Equalization and EI subsidies must be a thing of the past. 'Cause everybody knows that massive infusions of other people's money never lead to dependence, they only make people work harder and harder.

Best wishes to all my fellow Marxists and welfare utopianists in the Conservative Party.

Yours Truly,
PET

Posted by: PET up in Hebbin at October 8, 2007 04:40 PM

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PET: Before ideology triumphs over all, why don't you look at a couple of "The Torch" posts above?

Mark
Ottawa

Posted by: Mark Collins at October 8, 2007 05:16 PM

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"I'm going to go to Kandahar, meet the troops and visit the infrastructure and send a clear message of solidarity to the troops,'' Coderre said in a telephone interview from Kabul.
Interesting that Coderre says he's going to visit the infrastructure. I am curious though how he plans to do that by never leaving the Tim Horton's at the Canadian base?

Coderre, who isn't accompanied by a large security detail and was issued a swipe card for the mess hall, said he won't travel off the main Kandahar base because of security concerns.

"I don't want to be a burden for security purposes so I'm not going to participate in an operation for now," he said.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/10/08/coderre-kandahar.html

I wish there was a tv news crew there to film the visit. Then when he comes home and starts lying about everything there'd be documented evidence to prove he's lying.

Plus it would be great to see the troops snubbing him. It seems the Canadian Troops don't want the kind of solidarity Coderre and the Liberals are offering.

It was Coderre's misfortune to find few Canadians to talk to when he walked through a recreational area for troops on Monday. He joined two Canadian soldiers for a coffee, but they refused to have their photograph taken with him.

A corporal who was ordering a pizza shook Coderre's hand. Moments later he told a journalist he knew that Coderre wanted to end the combat mission, which is strongly supported by the troops.

Asked what he thought of Coderre's position, the corporal paused before finally saying, "Well, he's entitled to his opinion."

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=202b1503-d672-4090-9220-952b41a8f260&k=33356

Posted by: Reid at October 8, 2007 06:31 PM

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As I understand it, Dion is hunkered down shuffling his Shadow Cabinet, so by tomorrow, Coderre may no longer BE the Defence critic. Should he not have waited a week to see if his journey was really necessary ???

Posted by: jad at October 8, 2007 07:42 PM

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"As a Tory partisan, I am certainly no fan of Denis Coderre, but I think this comment is entirely uncalled for." Brian in Calgary

This comment was made in jest. I am sure Dion's handlers would never wish any harm opon Mr. Coderre nor would any of the Liberals wish harm upon each other.

"Grit infighting unorchestrated, 'fratricide on a large scale'" Hill Times

Posted by: muttsrus at October 8, 2007 08:05 PM

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Denis Coderre's trip is nothing but an attention seeking mission for Denis Corerre. He's trying to make like he's of some importance. The few members of the Forces he met with didn't want to be photographed with him, his reception was mighty cool in the 'Stan.
They have much more important things to attend to than chatting with farts like Coderre, supposedly over there fact finding with a closed mind to end the Mission in 2009.
What a freaking comedy. Who put up the funds for this silly trek?
Watch for him on Puffy Duffy Live, he'll get lots of time, Duffy is a fan of his.

Posted by: Libby at October 8, 2007 08:40 PM

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PET: Before ideology triumphs over all, why don't you look at a couple of "The Torch" posts above?

Exactly. It is not only Marxist theory which leads us to the conclusion that government must constantly expand, but simple common sense tells us that this is so. No government program, as long as it is implemented by true comrades, will ever get bogged down in bureaucracy, or result in funds being diverted into the wrong hands, or will deliver the opposite result to the one intended. Welfare spending does not trap people into laziness and dependency - despite what bourgeois right-wing so-called freedom-lovers claim. And picking winners and losers with targetted welfare programs never causes jealousy or results in a country fracturing into regional camps who demand more money or complain about how much another region receives. And if there is a little complaining sometimes, this could never lead to secessionist movements or civil war. Especially not in a place like Afghanistan where the socialism is very pure and where the proletariat are not culturally prone to shooting it out whenever the people in the next valley don't do what they want.

I would like to offer a little piece of advice to you and your partisan comrades - for which, since it's in the interest of the advancement of socialism, I'm sure my former comrades in the Liberal Party will forgive me. If, despite all of the intellectual, ideological and common sensical reasons why spending hundreds of millions of dollars of Canadian taxpayers money on dozens of new welfare programs in central Asia, there are still bitter and unreasonable people who complain about the futility and immorality of such spending, then do not hesitate to make irrational, emotional appeals in order to win over the lumpenproletariat. Tell them how babies will be murdered and girls will be raped if they don't give you the money that you want. Call them terrorist-sympathizers, "dhimmi" and surrender monkies. Do whatever it takes. And if your own party leadership fails to be sufficiently adherent to socialist principles and methods then have no fear - I shall very soon send my Son among you, whose devotion to Our Great Cause will bring joy to the heart of everyone who believes like you and me in the inevitable march toward worldwide socialism.

I salute you, comrade.

Posted by: PET up in Hebbin at October 8, 2007 09:02 PM

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Romours circulating that Dion is leaving the leadership before October 16.

Anybody heard anything reliable?

Posted by: Kingston at October 8, 2007 09:52 PM

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PET: I take it then that you would consider the Marshall Plan a grave error?

I also would be grateful if you might provide more detail on the Afghan proletariat (in the Marxist sense).

Mark
Ottawa

Posted by: Mark Collins at October 8, 2007 10:02 PM

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Re: Dion - just saw an ad in today's Edmonton JOurnal: Dion will be having a "town hall" in Edmonton this Wednesday, October 10th at a community league hall here. (same day as the Ontarion election?).

Methinks he is coming to this bastion of conservatism to "'TEST DRIVE the NEW DION that has been created for him by the old Chretienites who have now taken over (regained power?) of the backrooms of the Liberal party. John Rae of PowerCorp is heading the team and Dion is now PUPPET to PowerCorp just like in the good old days.

SoDion is coming to Alberta this week....lucky us.

Posted by: Lorraine at October 8, 2007 10:37 PM

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Speaking of Power Corp, Bourque had a link to an Ottawa Sun article about the firm's ties to Burma. Power Corp has shares in the French oil company Total which has refused to freeze investments in Burma as Sarkosky has asked French businesses to do in light of the terrible injustice going on there.

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