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Liberals have to stop fighting Liberals

The Liberals must stop fighting among themselves. Listen to this guy, he knows what he's talking about.




With Stephane Dion's leadership in question after the disastrous Liberal performance (coupled with a very strong Conservative result) in this week's Quebec by-election, advisors from the Liberal Party glory days are coming out the woodwork to explain what needs to be done.

David Herle, a long-time [Paul Martin] loyalist and Liberal campaign chief in the past two campaigns, heaps this resounding praise up Jean Chretien's man, Stephane Dion:

"The truth of the matter is that Mr. Dion is going to be the party leader in the next election. He's not leaving. There's no mechanism for removal. And frankly there's no compelling evidence at the moment that anybody would be particularly better."

No one else particularly better? I bet Stephane Dion's cheeks were red with embarrassment at this compliment.

We can't get rid of him, and no one else sucks less, as far as we can tell.

David Herle gives some profound advice to the Liberal Party:

David Herle...said Liberals should focus on the Tories as the real opponent.

"What Liberals really, really need to be careful about at this juncture is entering into a situation where the party starts to feed on itself as we've seen in the past," Herle said.

Ah yes, the past.

David Herle knows a bit about Liberal Party history of feeding on itself:

[Paul] Martin's personal team, a tight-knit family of political operatives, have worked for nearly 15 years to make sure every aspect of Martin's political career is carefully orchestrated. They are mostly housed in the Earnscliffe Group, an Ottawa lobby firm that includes Martin promoters David Herle, Scott Reid and former CBC Ottawa bureau chief Ellie Alboim. Their labouring on behalf of Martin didn't stop at enhancing his stature in the party. The relentless pursuit of power saw the finance ministry and Martin's personal political agenda blended into a single, seamless project.

The single-mindedness of Martin's team has created new standards in political secrecy, loyalty and punishment for transgressors. That new standard is profoundly anti-democratic, not only in terms of party politics but also as it affects democratic governance. It is an entrenched part of the political subculture around Paul Martin.

Martin's accession to the position of finance minister in 1993 is revealing of just how different our new prime minister is from his predecessor. The leadership fight in 1990 was an extremely nasty affair, with Martin attacking Jean Chretien in a particularly vicious manner long after it was clear that Chretien was going to win. Martin's actions, then as now, were considered by many Liberals to be damaging to the party.

I have to wonder if David Herle would be giving the same calming advice if he was actually advising Stephane Dion or one of his rivals, instead of being on the outside looking in with no stake in who is leader. Still, it's good advice. I doubt too many Liberals will be listening though.

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"The Liberals must stop fighting among themselves"

Are you kidding? Offering organizational solutions to the greatest malevolent force to plague Canadians in the last century?

Please Steve, let them implode into corrupt irrelevance and allow Canada to heal from their malignant infection of public office.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at September 19, 2007 09:14 AM



You are a brave man, Steve.

Posted by: muttsrus at September 19, 2007 10:53 AM



i'd like nothing better than to watch them grind themselves deep into the ground . very deep.and then pull the sod over top of there thieving sorry asses.

Posted by: John Demerais at September 19, 2007 11:32 AM



WLMR: Couldn't have said it better myself. "...malevolent force..." "...malignant infection...". Perfect description.

Posted by: Mike at September 19, 2007 11:47 AM



It's fine in theory to say that but the chasm in the Liberal party is very old and very deep. Opposing sides have been nailing each other since before the Trudeau era.

Chretien ruled with an iron fist and Martin plotted for 13 years to overtake him, expunging any other potential leaders or anyone who wouldn't openly support him, leaving only toadies and yes men left to support him and a giant vacuum in place of potential leadership.

Then in the 1 year draaaawn out leadership campaign the top two contenders turn out to be a guy who hasn't lived in the country for 30 years and who is frankly, running for the wrong party, and a former provincial NDP leader who tried his best to wipe Ontario off the map.

The party elects candidate #3 on the basis that he is less hated than the #1 and #2 guys. But the problem with Dion isn't his language, or the fact he is from Quebec, the problem is that he looks like a weenie, talks like a weenie and acts like a weenie. He appears to be missing two round objects that normally reside between a man’s legs.

Then he tries to be inclusive and hires a large chunk of the Martin brain trust (including Herle) that had produced what was probably the worst campaign in recorded history and made them his trusted advisers.

He is running around literally in flames at the moment and it’s hard to watch, but you can't stop looking at it. The closest parallel I can come up with is Stockwell Day (Same initials, odd). And we know where that one went.

The best advice I could give him would be to pull out his ax and start firing people.

Start off by firing ANYONE who worked on the Martin campaign. Then sack anyone who you think worked on the campaign.

Next, get rid of any of your closest advisors who are Iggy people. Even if Iggy isn't pulling the strings they might be doing what they think he wants. Put the Ray people on notice that they are next if anything happens.

Then come out issuing orders and directives and start looking like a leader. Lose the beret, stop making that sad hand gesture, and for gods sake don't get filmed eating any more hot dogs with a knife and fork.

Posted by: Davide at September 19, 2007 12:19 PM



Again:

Dion is a leader without a party, and the Liberals are a party without a leader.

Tic toc tic toc .....

Posted by: Observer at September 19, 2007 02:10 PM



The Liberals are only interested in power for power's sake. They feel they have the divine right to rule.

Let them squabble on with their backstabbing program they've been using for over a decade, it's working to keep them out of power.
They need to learn a little humility and respect the choices made by the voters of this country, it's not all about Liberals.
A good start would be hone in on ridding themselves of their most supreme arrogance. We do not reward scandal ridden political parties including those with the MSM as a fifth column.

Posted by: Libby at September 20, 2007 07:35 AM



Dion will be asked to step down as Liberal leader, as will all his friends who supported him in the leadership race. You know, all those old dog Liberals who flocked to Dion because they feared Ignatieff's promise to "renew" (read: purge) the party.

If Dion remains as leader, Liberal popularity will sink like a rock, and that will panic Liberal MPs into shoving Dion out asap. Holding on to Dion is like sinking with the ship, and no politician likes that.

Also grassroots Liberal party members overwhelmingly rejected Dion as their leader, and if he hangs on they will abandon the party in any next general election.

Dion is a total loss, and for Liberals to present him as their choice for prime minister is an insult to all Canadians.

If Quebec doesn't want Dion, why should the rest of Canada?!

Posted by: Observer at September 20, 2007 10:38 PM



Just a doggone minute! Why are we giving any help at all to the " Natural Governing Party"? It is very clear we need things the way they are. Two reasons- if the CPC wants to wait, then we don't need the LPC figuring out what they should to get out of the spot they're in; if we go early, we definitely don't want the Liebs in any shape to run a campaign. S D is our best friend. Let's maintain the status quo.

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