Before yesterday, the website No Gun No Funeral was not considered political advertising by Elections Ontario because it did not promote a party or a politician.
Well, hasn't that changed? The silly thing is that it was staring me in the face, and it was only now that I actually realized it.
When Libertarian candidate Marty Gobin complained to Elections Ontario that No Gun No Funeral constituted political advertising, Elections Ontario disagreed. This is what was reported in the media about the Elections Ontario decision, as was reproduced on No Gun No Funeral:
Gobin said he was told by Elections Ontario that the website doesn't meet the definition of political advertising because it does not promote a politician or party, but he wants officials to look more closely at the website and the resources used to develop it.
Well, since that complaint happened, I posted some information about the tight connections between Michael Bryant and No Gun No Funeral website. That led to a on-air discussion with Roy Green, followed by a news report in which, when asked, Michael Bryant admitted that the site was his.
That news report was reproduced on the No Gun No Funeral website, both in summary form and verbatim. The summary focused on the point that since Michael Bryant's name wasn't on the website, the site was not considered political advertising.
Here's the obvious thing that I missed. The moment the report was reproduced on the No Gun No Funeral website, it made direct mention of Michael Bryant, including how he conceived of the website and had it constructed. By reporting on the Elections Ontario decision, the argument of Elections Ontario that Michael Bryant wasn't tied to the website anywhere on the website was rendered null and void:
Michael Bryant said he wanted the website to be about ideas -- not politics or politicians -- so he did not put his name on it..."It's my phrase; it's my idea; it's my website," Bryant said.
Here's the screenshot from the home page:

Wait a second...Michael Bryant's name is on the website. Right there. On the home page. Bragging about how the website and its content was his.
Now doesn't that mean that someone visiting this site would now that Michael Bryant, candidate for the Ontario Liberal Party, is promoting a handgun ban, and doesn't that mean that the same person would be presented with the arguments to support this politician's point of view on the facts page? Does it not follow that a voter in Ontario who might be sympathetic to a handgun ban would realize after visiting this site that Michael Bryant ought to enjoy this voter's support, and that Michael Bryant's party (the Ontario Liberal Party, mentioned explicitly in the full version of the story, which is reached from the top link on the home page) ought to get this voter's vote, if he wants this ban to be realized?
Doesn't that mean that by admitting that the site is his via this news report, and by reproducing that report on the website, Michael Bryant has transformed the website into an example of political advertising?
Think about it. Read what's on the front page. It boils down to, "Hi. I'm Michael Bryant. This is my website where I'm promoting my idea to ban handguns outright."
Sounds like he's advertising his platform loud and clear. And all because he's reporting on how Elections Ontario was right not to tag the site as political advertising because his name isn't on it. It's ironic. And sort of funny, too.
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VERY interesting...
Posted by: Peter S at August 19, 2007 09:14 PM
I think Bryant has been too smart by half. The question now is whether Elections Ontario is too biased by half.
Posted by: Brian in Calgary at August 19, 2007 09:42 PM
Why doesn't he just admit that its political advertising and register it?
It would be a lot easier than this lie he's working on and it would also attract the kind of idiots he wants to get cheap votes from.
Posted by: langmann at August 19, 2007 10:00 PM
Bryant can't admit it is a lie--Liberals do not know the difference between truth and lies.
Now, does Elections Ontario know the difference?
Posted by: George at August 19, 2007 10:11 PM
Zing!
That's a pretty good line of thought Steve.
I think the spin machine's getting cranked to 10000 RPM tonight somewhere in Toronto.
Posted by: at August 19, 2007 10:13 PM
"Why doesn't he just admit that its political advertising and register it?"
Because if he did it would have to be added to the tally for the election. Not only that but the registration of said expence has to include in-kind support from the federal counterpart the LPC.
Now the question is, will the LPC be claiming the payment? And if so what is the stated value?
Posted by: gimbol at August 20, 2007 06:19 AM
The Libranos desire to ban firearms, could it be just anudder boweledfaced LIE, to garner the pussy vote?
Maybe they should only ban guns south of Coboconk, or Borup's Corner's, ON....and let us, up here, in NWO, pack whatever kind of hogleg we want to...
Posted by: Feldwebel Wolfenstool at August 20, 2007 08:09 AM
I think a good portion of this comes down to whether or not No Gun No Funeral is simply an autonomous campaign, or whether any organization has been set up in support of it.
For example, if it's simply Bryant and his Liberal party colleagues running the campaign and paying for it out-of-pocket, it could be viewed as autonomous. But if there's a No Gun No Funeral committee set up, accepting donations from fellow handgun ban advocates, that would establish No Gun No Funderal as a political entity, and all funds contributed towards it should be classified as political donations, subject to the appropriate limits.
If this is the case (and I can't think of any way to confirm it, aside from relying on the honesty of the Bryant campaign), then numerous people could be over their donation limits under federal election law.
Mr Janke clearly has a bigger bag of tricks toward this end than I do. I actually tried to look up the site's registration info, but I didn't really even know where to look.
Posted by: Patrick Ross at August 21, 2007 02:48 PM