Perley Edmund Holmes: First drugs and now guns
An arsenal of weapons have been found in connection to the arrest of Perley Edmund Holmes, the BC union leader picked up in Washington state with over $4 million in cocaine in his possession. Now is the time for a cheap political shot.
The cheap political shot is aimed at Stephane Dion, of cource. Holmes had posted an effusive endorsement of Stephane Dion at the Dion website during the recently concluded Liberal Party leadership campaign. The news of Holmes' arrest prompted the Dion people to pull the endorsement off the site without explanation.
Hoping no one would remember that the make a connection? Funny thing is, a less panicked response would have generated less interest.
The story is developing further, with the discovery of a large cache of weapons in Canada:
The seizure of $4.3 million US worth of cocaine near the Canada-U.S. border last week has led to the discovery of a large cache of firearms and ammunition at a home in the tiny community of Midway in B.C.'s Southern Interior, the RCMP said.
The RCMP tracked down the cache. Literally:
The RCMP said the investigation began after an American border patrol agent started following tire tracks in the snow heading toward the Canadian border.
The agent then found footprints that led him to two men trying to hide under bushes, with two backpacks filled with the cocaine, the RCMP said.
[T]he U.S. border control passed its information on to the RCMP, and officers found tracks in the snow near where the men had been trying to cross the border.
The tracks led to the house in Midway, where the firearms were found, said Cpl. Norm Massie of the RCMP border integrity unit.
Midway is 3 minutes from the US border, and is halfway between the Pacific Ocean and the Rocky Mountains. It has a population of 630 people. Though small, there is also a small airport on the outskirts of town. Small town with minimal police presence, isolated yet close to the US, an airport -- might be an ideal transit point for drug and gun smuggling.
Do you think these firearms were registered in the gun registry? I'm willing to bet they were. I mean, these criminals were hardcore supporters of the Liberal Party. I can only assume they were also staunch proponents of the gun registry.
OK, cheap shot finished.
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Its not a cheap shot. So a criminal endorses a party that is soft on crime. Gee, I wonder why.
Posted by: Ontario Lad at January 27, 2007 10:26 AM
At least you labeled this a cheap shot. I still think that the link between Dion and Holmes is very tenuous at best. That said, I hope the Liberals are doing a _very_ close review of their major contributors and staff. They can not afford another scandal right now.
Posted by: jgriffin at January 27, 2007 05:18 PM
igriffin
what do you mean they cannot afford?
they're finished as a party.
they get the stupid leader and 50% they do not want this idiot in party. maybe french want.
Posted by: george at January 27, 2007 08:42 PM
but sadly, george, dispite all that they have done, and all that they have shown themselves to be, they still have followers who fervently believe "liberals good, conservatives evil!" and vote for them.
Posted by: pete at January 27, 2007 11:38 PM
Funny thing is, a less panicked response would have generated less interest.
Funny thing is, you are the only one showing any interest in this "story". Has it been picked up by any other "media" outlet?
Posted by: bob at January 28, 2007 02:40 PM
'Picked up by another media outlet?' You mean the Liberal controlled media? Are you surprised? Of course it hasn't been picked up--they are too busy showing Dion walking on water!
Posted by: Another George at January 29, 2007 06:55 AM
"Liberal Controlled Media"...thats a good one .
Perhaps, Another George, its a non-story; here being artifically hyped by Conservatives. It's not like they haven't done that before.
Another blogger pointed out that any move by Dion would have been jumped on by Conservatives. He yanked the ad, and its seen as...what exactly? If the ads were left, it would be see nas supporting crime. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Dion pulled the ads off his page when he found out about the crime. This is what I believe anyone would do. And your raking him over the coals for it?
As for criminals supporting the Liberals...are you implying that no criminals support the CPOC or Conservatives? Are we allowed to treat Harper like you treat Dion?
Posted by: Murray Rennie at January 29, 2007 10:04 AM
As for criminals supporting the Liberals...are you implying that no criminals support the CPOC or Conservatives?
If you want to nitpick, I'm sure you can find some drunk drivers, maybe some white-collar criminals, no doubt lots of technical criminals -thanks to the gun registry- who support the CPC.
When it comes to real criminals (ie: those who deliberately and with malice, present a danger to society) -no. You're not going to find any supporters of the CPC in that bunch. You honestly believe that drug dealers, gang members, violent criminals and the like are going to vote for a party that wants to make life miserable for them ? Don't be bloody silly.
Are we allowed to treat Harper like you treat Dion?
By all means. We all know how kindly Mr. Harper has been treated by the Liberals and their pet media these past few years.
The difference is that you can poke away at Mr. Harper all day and he won't even blink.
You so much as question Monsieur Dion on something and he presents a vocal range that makes his cousin Celine jealous. Non ?
Posted by: up north at January 29, 2007 12:15 PM
When it comes to real criminals (ie: those who deliberately and with malice, present a danger to society) -no. You're not going to find any supporters of the CPC in that bunch. You honestly believe that drug dealers, gang members, violent criminals and the like are going to vote for a party that wants to make life miserable for them ? Don't be bloody silly.
Interesting assertion. So your saying criminality has an ideological bias? A murderer will never vote Conservative AT ANY TIME? A CEO who defrauds his company votes LIBERAL after giving thousands to CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES?
By all means. We all know how kindly Mr. Harper has been treated by the Liberals and their pet media these past few years.
The difference is that you can poke away at Mr. Harper all day and he won't even blink.
Yeah, right. is that why he threw the hissy fit and declared the Ottawa Press core "biased"?
Oh that's right...in your eyes their the Liberal's "Pet Media". Strange how this pet media was stumbling over itself feeding us Liberal Scandals a few years ago.
You know, the ones Harper rode to a MINORITY government.
You so much as question Monsieur Dion on something and he presents a vocal range that makes his cousin Celine jealous. Non ?
Something Harper does only too well. He made his name complaining. The difference now is that he's been in power for a year...and his tune has not changed.
Posted by: Murray Rennie at January 29, 2007 12:39 PM
Interesting assertion. So your saying criminality has an ideological bias?
No. I'm saying that criminals are out for number one.
Who brought in such abortions as the Faint Hope Clause (which Clifford Olson uses to torment the families of his victims) ?
Who brought in the YOA and the YCJA ?
Who supports the right of convicted criminals to vote ?
Who is against capital punishment ?
Whose Justice Minister said that "longer sentences are not a deterrent" ?
(if you need help with this, the answer to all of the above would be -the Liberals)
Now -who's sick of all this bullshit ?
Conservatives. Please -connect the dots. How do you think criminals are going to vote ?
Yeah, right. is that why he threw the hissy fit and declared the Ottawa Press core "biased"?
The Parliamentary Press Gallery calls it a 'hissy fit'. Liberal supporters call it a 'hissy fit'. Both groups (actually, they're one and the same) hate his ass and always will. The rest of the country pretty much got a laugh out of it.
For the record: He did not blink. He did not raise his voice. He simply called it like it is. They are biased.
Strange how this pet media was stumbling over itself feeding us Liberal Scandals a few years ago.
What else was there ?
You know, the ones Harper rode to a MINORITY government.
If memory serves, the Adscam story broke before the 2004 election -and Harper lost that one. That's not a bad reflection on him -though it speaks volumes about the voters.
Something Harper does only too well. He made his name complaining. The difference now is that he's been in power for a year...and his tune has not changed.
Forgive me -this does not make sense. Are you saying that Mr. Harper routinely gets in a tizzy and raises his voice like Mr. Dion ? Puh-leeze. I thought one of the big complaints about Mr. Harper was that he was a "cold fish".
Of course he made his name complaining -he was the Leader of the Opposition. Duh !
And actually his tune has started to change a bit -which personally pisses me off, but I suppose he has to bow to political realities like every other head of state.
Posted by: up north at January 29, 2007 01:13 PM
No. I'm saying that criminals are out for number one.
if their out for number one...If voting Conservative helps, they will. I notice you avoided the CEO example. Why was that?
Who brought in such abortions as the Faint Hope Clause (which Clifford Olson uses to torment the families of his victims) ?
Who brought in the YOA and the YCJA ?
Who supports the right of convicted criminals to vote ?
I will give you the above. I don't like the YOA myself.
Who is against capital punishment ?
Whose Justice Minister said that "longer sentences are not a deterrent" ?
Ah, but does Capital punishment and longer sentences actually REDUCE crime? The example of the U.S. points to...NO.
And the instances of innocents being executed shows just how vacuous Capital Punishment is
(if you need help with this, the answer to all of the above would be -the Liberals)
Now -who's sick of all this bullshit ?
Conservatives. Please -connect the dots. How do you think criminals are going to vote ?
So, aside from looking for ways to throw people in jail AFTER THE CRIME HAS BEEN PERFORMED, what steps have Conservatives taken to reduce instances of crime...before the crime is performed? After all, if steps are taken to give opportunities to kids and people, the crime rate would drop.
But then, it would not be newsworthy. After all, bodies behind bars/or on a morgue slab after execution is more concrete and visible than a crime avoided by increased opportunity.
Yeah, right. is that why he threw the hissy fit and declared the Ottawa Press core "biased"?
The Parliamentary Press Gallery calls it a 'hissy fit'. Liberal supporters call it a 'hissy fit'. Both groups (actually, they're one and the same) hate his ass and always will. The rest of the country pretty much got a laugh out of it.
Umm...who decided first not to talk to the press core? Answer---Harper.
For the record: He did not blink. He did not raise his voice. He simply called it like it is. They are biased
He couldn't raise his voice because he decided to avoid talking to them.
Strange how this pet media was stumbling over itself feeding us Liberal Scandals a few years ago.
What else was there ?
If the media was the Liberal's "Pet media"...how was it even possible we saw anything about this.
You know, the ones Harper rode to a MINORITY government.
If memory serves, the Adscam story broke before the 2004 election -and Harper lost that one. That's not a bad reflection on him -though it speaks volumes about the voters.
It speaks volumes that Canadian voters do not trust Harper and the CPOC. Perhaps there a valid reason for that...one that has nothing to do with the "Liberal Media". Perhaps it Harper himself?
By your admission the Harper lost one election and squeaked out a minority riding the coattails of this Liberal Scandal.
Something Harper does only too well. He made his name complaining. The difference now is that he's been in power for a year...and his tune has not changed.
Forgive me -this does not make sense. Are you saying that Mr. Harper routinely gets in a tizzy and raises his voice like Mr. Dion ? Puh-leeze. I thought one of the big complaints about Mr. Harper was that he was a "cold fish".
Did I say he raised his voice? Just where did I say that?
One can complain, as Harper does, with a smile on ones face and a quiet voice.
Of course he made his name complaining -he was the Leader of the Opposition. Duh !
Too bad he hasn't really changed since he got into power.
Posted by: Murray Rennie at January 29, 2007 02:36 PM
I notice you avoided the CEO example. Why was that?
I would have thought that my original post about "some white-collar criminals" -I believe CEO's fall into that category- included ...well...CEO's.
I will give you the above. I don't like the YOA myself.
Noted and appreciated.
Ah, but does Capital punishment and longer sentences actually REDUCE crime? The example of the U.S. points to...NO.
I'll bet it cuts down on repeat offences though (or at least delays them).
And the instances of innocents being executed shows just how vacuous Capital Punishment is
I'll refrain from asking you for examples if you can explain to me why we shouldn't do away with Clifford Olson. Or Paul Bernardo.
So, aside from looking for ways to throw people in jail AFTER THE CRIME HAS BEEN PERFORMED, what steps have Conservatives taken to reduce instances of crime...before the crime is performed? After all, if steps are taken to give opportunities to kids and people, the crime rate would drop.
Well, first off, throwing them in jail BEFORE the crime has been performed isn't allowed. It may sound great on paper, but it's such a ...Saddam thing to do...(mind you, he doesn't do that anymore...).
Now, if you want to take even more money from the taxpayers, to build basketball courts and community centres -or to just outright give it away to your various race-pimps, professional victims, or anyone else who feels like threatening their way to prosperity -fine.
Me, I'm a big advocate of consequences. If no one is going to be punished for anything, there will always be people who will take advantage of that. The sad fact is that there are a lot of seriously not-nice people out there. Suggesting that they are evil solely because of a disadvantaged youth or poverty is a slap in the face to everyone who had a horrible childhood or lives in poverty or is the victim of real racism and yet chooses to NOT do harm to others. And there are lots of people like that.
Posted by: up north at January 30, 2007 01:41 PM
Just a few interesting facts on perley e. holmes prior to his arrest. Mr. Holmes ran local 97 of the ironworkers with no control of its membership or duly elected officers and excecutive. Mr. Holmes would not allow control over our Market Recouver Fund an influx of moneys clawed back of our contractors to fend of the none union sector. Mr. Holmes also changed our money manergers involving our Pension Fund. In conclusion take a look at Local 720 Irionworkers Edmonton his best friends and most wealthy of all the ironwoker locals. Maybe the R.C.M.P. MIGHT get of there donkeys and start to audit these people.
Posted by: I=ron Head at February 1, 2007 09:44 PM
Regarding Perley Edmund Holmes/ Have the R.C.M.P. found his underground bunker on one of his propertes yet, maybe they should have a look/
Posted by: FRANK at February 4, 2007 08:31 PM
Regarding Perley Edmund Holmes/ Have the R.C.M.P. found his underground bunker on one of his propertes yet, maybe they should have a look/ take a look at his Point Roberts property and the person living with him.
Posted by: FRANK at February 4, 2007 08:35 PM
"So, aside from looking for ways to throw people in jail AFTER THE CRIME HAS BEEN PERFORMED, what steps have Conservatives taken to reduce instances of crime...before the crime is performed? After all, if steps are taken to give opportunities to kids and people, the crime rate would drop. "
The conservatives have only been in power for a little over a year, and have not had the support from the liberal party in the house or senate to pass any kind of meaningful laws to fight crime. The Liberals (and NDP) voted down the extension of the anti-terrorism law, whch was a preventative measure that was put in place by the Liberals, and up until a few months ago was supported b the Liberals.It was there to try and prevent the worst kind of crimes against our citizens... before they were committed...
In the anti-terrorism bill, like all other issues, the Liberals only know how to latch onto an opposing side of an issue ( even if it opposes their own Liberal principles) and then just keep this constant drum-beat of slander and lies going in the media to discredit the CPC. Libs were angry at Harper for running the so called "attack ads' about Dion on prime time television.
If anyone has ever watched the CBC during prime-time (Air Farce, This Hour, The Mercer Report...) these shows play out like a slickly produced and scripted attack ad against the conservatives. Its just relentless the way they constantly spew personal insults and attacks towards the Conservatives on there. Then the CBC news just picks up right where they left off with biased news stories such as the supposed "cover-up' of the Pearson Nobel prize.... It took another network that still had some shred of fair news-reporting (CTV) to actually show the hypocrisy of the liberals accusation, when they reported that the liberals had covered up that display in many press conferences... at least the conservatives have the integrity to use their own money to buy advertising time on networks, instead of using taxpayers money to run their propaganda network...
Posted by: Troy at February 28, 2007 10:23 AM
After all, if steps are taken to give opportunities to kids and people, the crime rate would drop. "
and stop blaming all the worlds problems on the lack of government handouts. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, and for making their own life better Its a liberal/ socialist cop-out to think otherwise. There are plenty of opportunities and programs for people who really want to change their life... it takes strong action by an individual to enact positive change in ones life, community, and country, not government handouts...
Posted by: Troy at February 28, 2007 10:49 AM
 
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