The Bank of Montreal is helping out the protesters. It's not the bank's role to be involved, of course, and all the bank is doing is hosting a bank account.
It's just business.
Just like it's just business to decide where to do your banking.
Hopes for a quick end to the ongoing aboriginal standoff in Caledonia, Ont., faded even more Tuesday as Six Nations protesters asked for donations of food and building supplies to help maintain their occupation through the winter.
Janie Jamieson, spokeswoman for the protesters, said they plan to finish the construction of 11 half-built homes if they get the donated building supplies. No one wants to see the houses "rotting away" when they could be used for shelter during the winter, she said.
Actually, I expect a lot of people would like to see exactly that.
People have quit their jobs and dedicated the last six months to the occupation, Jamieson said, and they will continue to do so until the land is returned to Six Nations — even if it means staying there throughout the winter.
This is just plain dumb. The land has been bought by the province and is being held in trust. At this point, I doubt anyone thinks the land isn't going to the Six Nations.
A call for donations has gone out on the website of the Six Nations protesters, asking for non-perishable food, warm clothing, building supplies and money, which can be deposited into a Bank of Montreal account.
Donations of money? Ken Hill is loaded, by all accounts. The Mohawk Warriors make buckets of money from cigarette smuggling, the drug trade, arms dealing, and so forth.
Maybe they've got better things to do with their money.
So I have to wonder. The town of Caledonia, Haldimand County, the individuals and businesses in Caledonia, the OPP, both individual members and the Police Association -- all the people who have suffered so much because of this -- how many of them hold accounts, big and small, in the Bank of Montreal? How many are planning to get loans or mortgages from the Bank of Montreal?
There are other banks, you know.
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Thank god I dumped the BOM back in 1985 after they fucked up my loan account and some so called heavyweight moron tried to intimidate me.
That told me don't trust anything from Queerbek
Posted by: Pissedoff at August 30, 2006 12:03 PM
Should have mentioned that the moron was calling from Calgary, but after my letter it was a VP from Queerbek who tried it on.
Posted by: Pissedoff at August 30, 2006 12:10 PM
No problem with them obtaining funds to continue
the occupation. One call to the Premier's office at Queens Park and they'll get all the money they need.
Posted by: Rattfuc at August 30, 2006 12:26 PM
Steve this is so utterly insane. I equate it to a person cutting off someon'es arm and then begging them for cash.
The more stupidity that comes out of Caledonia, the more I weep for our country....
Posted by: Shere Khan at August 30, 2006 01:50 PM
Finishing the houses while the land is under dispute and in negotiations should be no different than riling against HENCO starting them in the first place as the protestors insist that land was under a claim. The protestors insisted on a complete site moratorium in the early days until the land issue was resolved. This was provided by the government months ago by David Ramsay (illegally I might add, as the government did not follow the planning act in their unilateral moratorium declaration and had to go back later and apply for the moratorium under their planning act).
A deal should be a deal. The government granted the moratorium on development on the site in response to a direct request by the protestors. Now the protestors want to break the moratorium and continue construction.
The appearance of this is that the protestors will not live up to agreements (even the ones they negotiate). JMO...
Posted by: SickandTired at August 30, 2006 01:50 PM
Why don't they use a famous whitey tactic and make up some sort of propaganda spin story like how they are afraid for their lives and the lives of their children, or better yet accuse the Caledonians as terrorists, make sure they control the news coverage to show only Caledonians as the aggressors. How about a spin story about how the Europeons racist taunts are keeping people away from the reserve and they now need financial assistance. Better yet pull an ingenious Henco real estate maneuver (classic) these guys did F**k all except begin building on knowingly disputed piece of land and they walked away with millions with more to come. The Six Nations need to learn the manipulation and underhanded tactics of the Europeons once you do spin the sh*t out off it to make it look as if the others are at fault for the fiasco created. Hell it worked and works so well for them that they managed to build political power and wealth world wide on other people's backs and lands. Reminds me of what do you call them..... criminal masterminds!
Posted by: at August 30, 2006 08:45 PM
You know i am sick and tired of hearing how the natives say Canada is not a country and we have no authority over them. BUT when it comes to taking our money through grants, wellfare and social assistance they are MORE THAN WILLING TO TAKE THE MONEY FROM THIS "FAKE COUNTRY." I say let them rott and freeze their ass off out there during the winter. They should have learned how to keep warm in the cold winters before the white man got here anyway. All i have to say is they are more than willing to be part of this country when it is financially acceptable for them. If you want no part of this country then FINE WE WONT BE PROVIDING YOU WITH ANY MONEY EITHER.
Posted by: at August 31, 2006 10:12 AM
I have been watching for years the natives across Canada and their actions to get what they want at any cost!!!. Finally I am seeing the people of this country start to stand up and spread the word!! I say don't stop now, we (the people of CANADA!) will be able to show the government that we'll not sit by and let these extremist operate inside our boarders any longer an YES we are going to stand our ground and we WONT BACK DOWN! I say gone are the days that any business, company or individual gives into native demands and threats. Gone are the days where people will just ignore the issues and shrug it off. The time to take a stance is now, The time to STAND UP AND BE HEARD IS TODAY. TO EVERY TRUE CANADIAN AND ANYONE WHO SEE'S THIS COUNTRY FALLING TO HER KNEE'S OUT THERE - KEEP UP THE FIGHT AND WE'LL BE THEIR WITH YOU!!
Posted by: TRUE CANADIAN at September 1, 2006 01:15 AM
True Canadian how about this scenario just as you finish this speech you feel your mommy waking you from your slumber telling you hurry up and eat your wheaties or you are going to miss the bus! lol!
Posted by: at September 1, 2006 01:52 AM
Shere, I think a better analogy would be that it is like cutting of a person's arm who has no fingers and then begging him for fingers because the arm isn't whole.
Posted by: TrustOnlyMulder at September 1, 2006 07:06 AM
I laugh when I watch the native representatives on the television saying how peacefully they are and how they are never the aggressors in any situation. How they are defending them selves from the all evil ‘WHITE MAN!’ I say it’s time for all of you to wake up and see it for what it is. The so called proclaimed ‘first Nations’ are as much an immigrant to Canada as anyone coming into this country every day to start a new life.
If you want to see examples of what I speak about in relations to how ‘peaceful’ the natives are. I say just walk onto anyone of their reserves, then see what they say to you as you walk around there streets and communities. I have done this and been told ‘If you don’t leave at once you’ll be shot!!’ well on that note, how about all the natives stay on there reserves and never leave that land. If we are not welcomed on yours you are most defiantly not welcome on Canadian soil. More examples – impperwash, ocha and the list can go on pre-dating the white mans arrival when the natives were trying to wipe out one another’s groups.
If you read carefully what was granted to the ‘six nations’ then all will see that the British granted them the land to be used under the British ruling and swore to protect the natives at the time who got their asses handed to them by the Americans. Note that I said the ‘natives at the time the land was granted to them’ not ‘forever’ and under the same legislation if you don’t use it then you loose it! I have read over the land treaties and Indian act, what I can’t understand is how and why Canada would pick up a promise to protect these people that they never really promised to in the first place.
As I look at it, all these cry baby natives should be happy the British or the white man came because if they didn’t come then they would be under American law and would have nothing in the way they get today! Just remember that little piece of information as you say we treat you so bad. Oh and enjoy everything you are getting today because come tomorrow it will start to go away as the other 30+ million people in this country start to ask the government ‘why’!?!?!
Have a nice day. =)
Posted by: True Canadian at September 1, 2006 08:47 AM
True Canadian again you have to look at the info you spin a little closer if not for the natives the the British and what you now call Canada would have had their asses handed to them. You would be singing the star spangled banner right now. As a matter of fact all Colonial pissons er I mean peons, sorry, recognized the Natives as formidable opponents in the time of formation of these countries and each side bid for their alliance because they knew the Natives could f**ck them up. It wasn't until small pox, tuberculosis, syphilis had wiped out most of the native population 90% while these colonialist states both immigrated by the millions and procreated like f**king rabbits that they grew enough balls to talk as they do now. As a side note after these battles in which the Natives helped various colonial entities they were back stabbed by these same so-called allies(Europeons) when they negotiated peace amongst each other because they were afraid that whom ever the Natives sided with would ensure the other got their asses handed to them. So don't feed people that b**lsh*t your granpappy told your pappy who told you. The Six Nations should go and settle in your house since you can't seem to comprehend the meaning of encroachment or seem to think it does't apply.
Posted by: at September 1, 2006 10:04 PM
I do understand very well the role the native played in regards to the beginning settlers. But if you want to play hard ball then I say look at how the all might six nations got their asses handed to them by the Americans, then forced to seek refuge under the British who swore only to protect the people of the time and for them to live on the land granted to them under British Rule. An how eventually the native groups through what is now Canada would have had the same thing happen to them as the six nations with the exception that there would be no British government to baby sit!
Another bit of information is that my information I researched myself and do not look to uneducated persons for my facts. From what I can tell is most ‘elder natives’ telling the younger generations to carry on the crusade of hate and hence why there is still so much hate when we should be working towards peace and not war inside Canada. If you cannot see that then you are truly the foolish one and I guarantee you that 100 years from now the problems will still exist if not be intensified and Canada will have it’s self a civil war because of the gaps between ‘them’ and ‘us’!!
I do not hate or want to see the natives or anyone killed over unrealistic compromises from both sides (which has happened in the past). If you look at what both sides are looking for and then find a middle playing ground, peace will come. If the natives stop trying to claim ALL OF CANADA and billions of dollars in compensation and the government stops trying to prolong the settlements and sticking to the natives. Things would be allot better and the whole ‘gap’ thing would probably net really exist anymore an we would all be more united as a whole and a nation. The reality is that they will never get all of Canada back even if they try to ‘fight’ for it, not even a good percent of Canada will ever be handed over to them. The country is growing and they will never regain control of this entire land. Again there is about 3-5 million native in Canada and over 30 million non-natives and growing by almost half a million a year. The numbers just don’t add up and as more land is need for Canada’s growth the land settlements will get smaller and smaller, that is why I suggest the natives try to settle their claims as soon as possible to get what they can.
The odds are no longer in their favor and the bleeding hearts of the nineties are disappearing quickly.
I would love to see the natives and non-natives be able to work together in the future, but I fear I’ll not see it in my lifetime and see the exact opposite.
I could go on and on why the natives will not be granted Canada or even a large portion of it, but I imagine that most persons reading this can figure it out themselves or already know.
Posted by: True Canadian at September 5, 2006 10:45 AM