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Gilles Duceppe defends demonstrating with pro-Hezbollah supporters

The leader of the separatist Bloc Quebecois, Gilles Duceppe, is insisting to the English-speaking press in Canada that he told the organizers of the August 6th Montreal rally that he would tolerate pro-Hezbollah demonstrations. But when the crowed loudly booed the speaker ahead of him who called for Hezbollah's disarmament as step to reaching a lasting peace for the region, Duceppe decided tolerance was the better part of principle and played to the crowed anyway.




From the National Post:

Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe has rejected criticism from Israel's ambassador to Canada over his participation in a peace rally on Aug. 6 in which pro-Hezbollah demonstrators turned up.

Mr. Duceppe said he is upset about the accusations made on Tuesday by ambassador Alan Baker, who he said appears to have been misinformed. He maintained the rally was far from a demonstration glorifying a terrorist organization, as the ambassador wrote in a letter last week.

Duceppe insists that he tried to keep the rally clear of Hezbollah supporters:

Later, he denounced their presence and violence and called for disarmament by all sides of the conflict. Mr. Duceppe said he cannot be held responsible for the excesses of certain individuals.

"We had them expelled I can't tell you how many times," he said. "We told them we don't want any Hezbollah flags here. We also had them stop shouting certain slogans but some started up again. We can't have complete control of 15,000 people."

Mr. Duceppe said to cancel the demonstration would have amounted to caving in to thuggery.

Interestingly, caving in to thuggery is exactly the solution Duceppe wants to impose on Israel.

Duceppe described the Hezbollah supporters as a tiny group. Tiny, but visible. One on was standing on the podium with him:

Last week, Le Soleil reported that Ginette Lewis, a spokesperson for Quebec Solidaire, a breakaway party to the left of the Partis Quebecois, declared her party's unconditional support for Hezbollah at a Quebec City rally. Not for the people of Lebanon, whose suffering in the current conflict cannot be denied, but for Hezbollah.

Quebec Solidaire is a new left-wing sovereigntist party in Quebec. The party, led by Amir Khadir, has apparently disavowed Lewis' remarks. Right.

Duceppe should have realized that the crowd was just as pro-Hezbollah as Lewis and Quebec Solidaire:

Many speakers and photo displays effectively exposed Israeli war crimes. But only one of the speakers at the closing rally expressed solidarity with the fighters of the Lebanese resistance. Many leaned in the direction of deploring the violence of both sides. Most speakers did this with a light touch, while emphasizing Israeli atrocities. One exception was Denis Coderre who bluntly denounced "the rocket attacks of both Israel and Hezbollah." The crowd responded with sustained booing.

Gilles Duceppe, leader of the Bloc Quebecois (BQ), followed him to the podium and echoed similar themes: both sides should stop fighting, Israel's reaction is disproportionate, we are for disarming all militias including Hezbollah. Duceppe was more adroit than Coderre in his presentation and he was generally well received – although the crowd responded to his statements against the resistance with silence, then resumed its applause when he turned his fire against the Canadian government.

A tiny minority indeed. The same description of the incident appears in the National Post:

Leading the parade were Bloc Quebecois chief Gilles Duceppe, Liberal MP Denis Coderre, PQ chief Andre Boisclair, and Amir Khadir, spokesman for the new far-left provincial party, Solidarite Quebec.

As a sop to the Quebec-Israel Committee, which had taken out full-page ads calling on the march's leaders to condemn terrorism, however, they called for the disarming of Hezbollah as part of a negotiated ceasefire.

For this, they were roundly booed by the crowd.

Gilles Duceppe knew who he was talking too. He heard the reaction to Coderre's remarks. If he was really so concerned about being in the company of Hezbollah supporters, he had an opportunity to make it clear right then and there. Not adroitly. But clearly, unequivocably, showing no tolerance for a one-sided "solution".

Because we all know that a one-sided solution plays into Hezbollah's ultimate goal of the destruction of Israel. This is what Duceppe is tolerating when he tolerates the jeers and catcalls.

Mr. Duceppe said the Bloc made it clear to organizers before the march it would not tolerate any pro-Hezbollah demonstrators or flags or anti-Israel slogans in the march.

Duceppe apparently decided to tolerate the slogans after all:

One placard carried by a number of demonstrators carried the title "Zionist checklist." It listed a number of categories such as hospitals, roads, power plants, women and children with a checkmark against each category, The last line read "Hezbollah;" it had no checkmark.

In an outrageous infringement of democratic rights, police intervened to confiscate some Hezbollah flags. This may have intimidated some people, but we saw at least 50 Hezbollah flags throughout the crowd, and a scattering of large photos of Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah. A leaflet headed "What is Hezbollah?" which answered many of the slanders against the organization, was widely distributed and well received.

I'm not to blame Gilles Duceppe for the actions of others. He is right when he says that he can't control what others do, and at a rally that size, it is likely that pro-Hezbollah types will be participating.

But I can hold him responsible for his own actions. On the one hand he says that he told rally organizers that he would not tolerate pro-Hezbollah supporters. But then he says that he can't control 15,000 people and attends anyway.

Seems like he managed to tolerate pro-Hezbollah demonstrators after all. If he really couldn't tolerate them, he would have left.

It is clear that there were pro-Hezbollah types in the crowd. Duceppe insists that they were thinly scattered, and so below some toleration threshold that he apparently has. The Socialist Daily insists their representation was heavy, and support widespread. Who is right?

Well, the boos had it, I think. Even if Duceppe thought the flags and slogans were tolerable after all, toleration turns into acceptance when you address a crowd that has just jeered a call for Hezbollah's disarmament without challenging them. Duceppe is clearly happy to tolerate just about anything if it means securing a few more votes for Quebec sovereignty.

Now here's a question for any of my Quebec-based readers. Duceppe's dust-up with Israel's ambassador over Duceppe's participation in the rally is being reported in the National Post, serving English-speaking Canadians. Is the French-speaking press at all interested? Have they reported on Duceppe's alleged intolerance of anything pro-Hezbollah and anti-Israel? Or is Duceppe getting a pass on this?


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I don't understand what there is to "defend" Mr. Duceppe. You are a duely elected member of parliament sworn to uphold the laws of Canada. Hezbollah is an outlawed terrorist organization under Canadian law....under the anti-terroist act ( which you voted for) arrest, detention and incarceration for open support of an outlawed terroist group is MANDITORY!!

Why are you walking the streets free along with other terrorist supporters?

Do we have a two tiered enforcement of the rule of law at the federal level as we do in Caledonia?

Why should any Canadian respect the law when our leaders don not?

Posted by: wlyonmackenzie at August 17, 2006 10:01 AM



Every single person at that rally holding a Hezbollah flag or chanting Hezbollah slogans should have been thrown in jail. Supporting a recognized terrorist group is not free speech in Canada.

Posted by: Jonny_eh at August 17, 2006 10:41 AM



You gotta love the leftist wing in Quebec. If the world adopted their same "principled" stance during World War 2, Canada's Distinct Society province would be passing Bill 101 in German.

By rights Montreal should have been the financial nerve centre of Canada to this very day. Not content with relinquishing everything to Toronto, there is a faction in Quebec that continues to relentlessly pursue a policy of political and economic self-lobotomy. Maybe that's why they so acutely identify with Hezbollah.

It's too bad that a contingent continues to stain such a beautiful and cultured province...

Posted by: at August 17, 2006 11:56 AM



Duceppe can say that he didn't realize Hezbollah would be there, but as soon as he did, it should have made him uncomfortable enough to leave.

Two days prior to the rally, on August 4th, this website:
http://tadamon.resist.ca/index.php/?cat=29
http://tadamon.resist.ca/index.php/?p=119
(and others) announced plans for the march August 6th.
Why wasn't Gilles Duceppe aware of the ideology of the people he marched with, before the march began? These people were among the organizers too.

Does it really surprize him that people whose websites and literature keep on about 'Israeli aggression' are not neutral on the war, and not necessarily marching for 'peace'?

Posted by: canadianna at August 17, 2006 12:06 PM



http://www.ledevoir.com/2006/08/17/116091.html

Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 17, 2006 02:41 PM



PQ/BQ and the PLO: Never missing the opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Posted by: Captain Ned at August 17, 2006 05:18 PM



Reading this, I realize that somebody deliberately (or not?) forgot to say that there were JEWS in that peaceful rally. I was not there, but I clearly saw at least a dozen of them on the evening TV News (Radio-Canada). They were clearly identified by their costumes...

Would you call them TERRORISTS because they were in a rally for peace in Middle-East?
Were they assaulted by the Hezbollah flags holdres?

Posted by: Marc Pageau at August 17, 2006 07:42 PM



Don't you mean, Marc Pageau, that since there were Jews there, it WAS a pro-terrorist march?

Seriously, pointing out a dozen Jews in a huge march does nothing but make you look silly. I'm going to a wedding of a vegan NDP staffer this weekend... does this mean the reception now qualifies as a Conservative barbeque?

Posted by: Yukon Gold at August 17, 2006 09:03 PM