...i was wondering what the heck that post was all about...

Posted by: tomax7 at August 11, 2006 09:37 AM

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So long and thanks for all the Frisch...

Posted by: Dante at August 11, 2006 10:14 AM

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Why Frisch would do that? Even if I disagrees with some bloggers, I would not risk my name by doing stupid actions just to harrass the bloggers.

Posted by: Crazy Dan at August 11, 2006 10:34 AM

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Because she's batshit-crazy, that's why. She's not just someone with whom you might disagree, she's absolutely certifiable. Or whacked out on something every hour of every day. so that you'd think she was nuts.

She's just beyond reason on this stalking of Jeff, and anyone who defended him or points out that she's a fruitloop.

Posted by: Patrick at August 11, 2006 10:58 AM

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Oh no, "teh crayzee" strikes again. Check out this site for more updates:

http://donthiredeb.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Teh Crayzee at August 11, 2006 11:26 AM

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I used to think the term loony left was just a gibe,and I guess in most cases it is. But from what I've read about this woman over the past few weeks, whew! When she was short of cogent points in her posts she turned to insults and from there just spiraled down into threats and virulence. I think the lesson here is, if you have nothing intelligent to add to a thread just read and enjoy. Once the spittles flying and your using a lot of CAPS you're getting into the realm of ****** extremists. JRA

Posted by: rick at August 11, 2006 12:10 PM

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I take the note as a not-so-subtley veiled death threat by Frisch. She was on one of her Vodka tears yesterday. Who knows what she is capable of when she's on a crazy streak.
Please pass on the particulars to Goldstein if you haven't already, as it might be useful at any restraining order hearing that is held.

Posted by: SarahW at August 11, 2006 12:23 PM

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Definitely check out the donthiredeb site. Also, if you arent too squeamish, check out her blog (google south(west)paw)

As one of the posters on the donthiredeb site so eloquently put it,(paraphrasing) "it's kinda like watching a monkey play with a chainsaw, you know what the outcome is going to be, but you too fascinated to stop it."

Sorry if I trashed the quote, but Im from the south, it's all about the story...

Posted by: Kanelin at August 11, 2006 12:32 PM

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Sorry Steve, but you have not been "frisched" You "frisch" when you write disgusting, nasty claptrap as she did on protein wisdom, and then end up unemployed, disgraced, sued, have a Restraining Order placed on you, and labelled as crazy. Obviously, you haven't gotten that far. This post is just weird and in obvious bad taste. This is just a continuation of her pathetic attempt for attention.

The fact that Deb wrote it is just proof that liberalism can lead to mental illness..

Posted by: Cincimaddog at August 11, 2006 12:35 PM

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Oh, and Deb, if I were going to go after any, ANY, person in this world, a SEAL is the very LAST person I would pick. I have known SEALS all my life, coming from a Navy town. You think you're "teh crazy?" Well do something stupid to tick off a SEAL and you have made an entire military community angry at you, not just one guy.

You have not seen "teh crazy" yet.

Can't make this a threat, cause Im not a SEAL. But you don't know what "crazy" is...

Posted by: Kanelin at August 11, 2006 12:39 PM

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Why did she relocate to Eugene ? Could she be teaching at U of Oregon now ? If she did, in fact, post that note and if she is, in fact, now at U of O - I'm sure the admin there would be interested in knowing about her.

Posted by: nBob at August 11, 2006 01:38 PM

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nBob, that is the mission of the Don't Hire Deb blog. Got to keep dangerous nutballs like the good Doctor from contact with eager minds.

BTW: Whoever plugged the blog above, olive u!

Posted by: Sinner at August 11, 2006 02:04 PM

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ban her. she's a lunatic and probably dangerous although more than likely a danger only to herself, kinda have to pity people like that

Posted by: kelly at August 11, 2006 02:11 PM

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Take the screen captures you have made, or need to make and e-mail them to jeff@proteinwisdom.com

His lawyer needs them.

Posted by: Hosedrasgger at August 11, 2006 02:14 PM

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She posted this yesterday, right?
She always starts up with teh crazy on Thursdays. She's been doing it for weeks now.

Posted by: juliesa at August 11, 2006 02:21 PM

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What do you call a snack made from Rosie O'Donnels vagina?

A Frisch Taco

Posted by: Cmunk at August 11, 2006 02:25 PM

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You can ban her and then 'prepare' for her to gloat about being banned on a 'winger site' by shrugging your shoulders. I am beginning to wonder if this is all she wants: a hollow moral victory of being banned at sites that don't usually ban people.

In her vernacular: whudda fuhreek.

Posted by: w3 at August 11, 2006 02:26 PM

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Let her post. Don't silence her promote her like you did today. Let the world see her leftist insanity. And to make matters better, there are nuttier lefties than her out there.

Posted by: ward at August 11, 2006 02:36 PM

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Cmunk - thanks for the rosie joke. That is my get out of jail free card regarding sexually offensive jokes about unohu.

u da man!

Posted by: word warrior at August 11, 2006 02:46 PM

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"That is my get out of jail free card"

Great, you need about 60 more of these to dig yourself out of the mess you made for yourself. Maybe you can blame "teh crayzee" and plea insanity.

Don't drop the soap.

Posted by: T at August 11, 2006 02:56 PM

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Ban her. It will save you some frustration.

Next Thursday, it will be some other poor blogger's turn.

Posted by: Dianna at August 11, 2006 03:16 PM

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I don't recommend banning, precede her remarks with: WARNING: whackjob in residence.

I have been following the Deb Frisch story since the night she posted her disgusting remarks at Protein Wisdom. I happened to be posting in the comments section when she started and witnessed her meltdown and threats first hand in real time. It was weird then, it is "batsh!t crazy" now. As another commenter has noted, she does seem to have a Thursday flareup pattern going. I know many think she gets drunk and then posts, but my experience with drunken posters is lots of typos and long nonsensical and rambling texts with no real connection to the subject at hand. She doesn't fit that pattern, as far as I can see. She seems more like someone with a personality disorder who has forgotten to take her meds. She is obviously suffering from deep-seated, unresolved rage and uses the blogosphere as her outlet. She is definitely in need of help and she definitely needs to be stopped. Is she harmless? Was Ted Kazinsky harmless? He appears to be one of her heroes. I didn't think Jeff Goldstein should wait around to find out. The restraining order was the first step, but honestly, I think she needs to be put on a psych hold ... where are her family or friends who might have influence with her? The sad situation is that her so-called friends on the far looney left support her and encourage her for their own benefit.

Since I found this post through a link left on my blog in a Deb Frisch update post, I will assume that those most directly involved in the story like Ace, Patterico and Protein Wisdom have been informed, but if not, do it! And be sure to preserve the comment with a screen shot.

Posted by: Sara (The Squiggler) at August 11, 2006 03:24 PM

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I vote to ban. Otherwise she'll keep commenting, and then after the meltdown she'll sue you for not deleting her comments.

Posted by: McGehee at August 11, 2006 04:01 PM

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Eh, don't forget that Steve is up here in the Great White North! So I think Deb would find it hard to sue him for not deleting comments (especially if she keeps having such great luck in hiring an attorney). Though I could be wrong, I suppose.

Don't ban. Not yet, anyway. Just keep those IP hits coming, document them, and give 'em to the eff-bee-eye (how I imagine the word warrior would put it).

Posted by: Meg Q at August 11, 2006 04:16 PM

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I ain't the one called the law man. it was my adversary in colorado who invoked the legal system of colorado to issue a restraining order to little old me in oregon.

u do not have to worry your pretty little heads about litigation being instigated by me.

trust me.

Posted by: word warrior at August 11, 2006 05:51 PM

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Just keep giving her rope.

Posted by: Chaos Spawnn at August 11, 2006 06:36 PM

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Far be it from me to tell you what to do. As you said this is NOT a democracy. This is your choice.

I would suggest, however, that you identify and highlight any post that comes from her or her IP address.

Given that she seems to suffer from the Squeaky Fromme (see Charles Manson) Syndrome most, but unfortunately not all, will realize that she is in serious need of help. With luck the ones that know, be they her family or closest friends, will have her committed.

BTW I agree with an earlier post of yours. To paraphrase, stay away from my family, stay away from my children!!!

Posted by: vieux loup at August 11, 2006 06:49 PM

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Simply put, I recommend that you ban her.

Posted by: Brian in Calgary at August 11, 2006 07:45 PM

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Let her post...you have done your duty and pointed her out.

Now on to more important matters....pick a topic any topic...

Posted by: stephen at August 11, 2006 08:09 PM

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trust me.

Best. Punchline. Ever.

Posted by: McGehee at August 11, 2006 08:11 PM

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I suggest not banning Ms.Frisch. "quos deus vult perdere rius dementat"

Posted by: Ron at August 11, 2006 08:21 PM

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Don't ban her I think she is the most intelligent person in the progressive left wing moonbat community. "More free speech not less". To find the ignorant let them speak, then you know where they are at. My hats off to Jeff@ Protein for showing restraint, I wouldn't want to end up in prison with a smile on my face if somebody frisched my babies.

Posted by: Dadzilla at August 11, 2006 08:59 PM

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"I ain't the one called the law man. it was my adversary in colorado who invoked the legal system of colorado to issue a restraining order to little old me in oregon."

Ummm, this is after you threatened him, along with is family, Deb. You are also the one that said you would stop harrassing him if he paid you.

You need to buy a toy and turn off the machine, Deb.

Posted by: at August 11, 2006 09:01 PM

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that was me just above btw

Posted by: Kanelin at August 11, 2006 09:05 PM

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I was present at the creation, reading Jeff's blog as Deb posted her vile threats against Jeff's child.

At that point I was sympathetic, urging her to get help.

No more.

The woman is crazy. Cerifiable. Nuts.

And doesn't know it.

In a way, it's a shame, she has a doctorate, is apparently very intelligent, and is shithouse rat crazy.

She posts odious stuff, like this fake suicide note.

Decide for yourself.

Posted by: N. O'Brain at August 11, 2006 09:37 PM

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Whoa!

Missed this:

I ain't the one called the law man. it was my adversary in colorado who invoked the legal system of colorado to issue a restraining order to little old me in oregon.

u do not have to worry your pretty little heads about litigation being instigated by me.

trust me.

Posted by: word warrior at August 11, 2006 05:51 PM

Like I said, decide for yourself.

Posted by: N. O'Brain at August 11, 2006 09:40 PM

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I know those that remember their Latin probably got the phrase I posted above. For those that don't: "those whom a God wishes to destroy He first drives mad".

Posted by: Ron at August 11, 2006 09:41 PM

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Deb's worst meltdowns happen over the weekend.

Abuse of substances, legal or not, is indicated.

I very much doubt that any attorney has taken her case, because at this point they would physically remove her computer from her home prior to appearing in court.

No judge is going to be sympathetic to the "it t'wasn't me, your honor!" line of defense when defendant is still out repeating the same behavior that landed them in court in the first place.

How does that line go? The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again, always in expectation of a different result?

Deb needs serious psychiatric care and substance abuse therapy, preferably in a lockdown facility.

Barring that, jail time should be on the table.

Posted by: Darleen at August 11, 2006 10:16 PM

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Commentary like the nutty professors is fascinating, and lets us glimpse the edge.
On with the show.
You'll be fine! ;7)

Posted by: richfisher at August 11, 2006 11:39 PM

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She's a sociopath; Maybe a drinker as well? I hold nothing against someone who like a drink. It may be she over does it. In any case, I say let her keep coming. However, ignore her comments, log them for sure, but ignore them. Either she will cross the line in a very big way, or she will simply go away. Human nature does not change after you graduate from college.

Posted by: Cmunk at August 12, 2006 10:23 AM

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If anyone wants it, her actual signature can be found here:

http://www.xicalangopress.com/images/webpage_02_18.gif

Any good forgers out there?

Posted by: moof at August 12, 2006 10:52 AM

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1. I suggest not banning Ms.Frisch. "quos deus vult perdere rius dementat"

Ouch. Double ouch. This hurts more than anything else so far. don't make fun of my robert service imitations or i might just....well, we don't need to go there.

2. Moof. You are a pathetic pissant. Don't you have anything better to do on a saturday than try to incite other idiots like yourself to commit fraud?

u one tuff sissy, mofo (hehehe moof=mofo.)

signed,

la jester

Posted by: word warrior at August 12, 2006 07:43 PM

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When I think what a hell it must be to wake up and know you are Deb Frisch and nothing will change that... why I almost feel sorry for the pathetic excuse for a humna being.

Folks, we got it good. None of us has to wake up and know that we are our own personal demon and hell all wrapped together like Deb does.

And our parents are lucky. They don't have to live their days in shame over spawning such demented and evil offspring.

Posted by: OpFree at August 12, 2006 11:17 PM

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for the record - that is not my signature.

by the way, moof's attempt to "get me" by inciting people to forge my signature might be the stupidest action by a rightwingnut yet! you guys are such stupid sissies - don't you ever notice that?

Posted by: word warrior at August 13, 2006 12:44 PM

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Ban this obnoxious, dangerous nut case!

When she threatened that man's child, she stepped over a line and for that, she should no longer get any tolerance. As far as I'm concerned, she's exhausted all the forbearance she deserved from decent people.

Posted by: Dave at August 13, 2006 02:33 PM

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Dingbat Dave,

I never threatened the child of the blogger from colorado. He admits it himself in this article.

http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/dailystar/137374

Y r u wingnutz so stoopid?

Posted by: word warrior at August 13, 2006 04:15 PM

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I'd say keep her. Next to the forums at Democratic Underground, she's probably the best source of inadvertant comedy on the web.

Absolutely batsh!t crazy.

But hilarious.

Posted by: Brian at August 13, 2006 09:40 PM

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Ban or don't ban, makes no difference. Just ignore her. She'll be going away soon, courtesy of the Colorado judicial system.

Deb, the things you've written on your own and others' blogs (such as this one right here) render that weeks-old article irrelevant. The RO came after your continued harassment of the Goldsteins, at your site and his, and others, became too much to ignore.

So I return your question to you: Y R U so stoopid?

Before you respond with yet another devastating Neener Neener, keep in mind that the more the online world gets to know you, the more they despise you. Even if nobody ever wrote about you again, your own words would be enough to label you a psychic Chernobyl for all time.

Y R U so full of teh crazy ®, Deb?

Posted by: sulla at August 13, 2006 10:15 PM

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Ron, FYI: Correct wording should be "Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat."

Posted by: Gaius Julius Caesar, Dictator of the Roman Republic at August 14, 2006 12:51 PM

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Hmmmm, has it ever occurred to anyone that "Dr." [as in PhD.] Frisch is engaging in a bit of a "social experiment" in the blogosphere? Her forte is psychology, IIRC.

Reading to catch up on the whole Frisch/Protein Wisdom altercation since it first started back in July or so, but especially her subsequent online posts at other blogs in addition to her own blog entries, two things struck me as strong possibilities right off:

1. Ms. Frisch is [manic/depressive] bi-polar, and as often happens with people who suffer from this disorder, she may skip her meds and revert to "type". This would explain the extreme swings in personality that come through in her postings.

2. Dr. Frisch is engaging in a social experiment involving both bloggers and blog readers, and is compiling the research data for future publication in the form of either a professional "paper", or a book on the psychological impact of communcations gone haywire through excessive involvement in the blogosphere.

3. Frisch the comedienne is gathering material for standup routines. ;-}

I'm kind of leaning towards #2, although sometimes it would seem that #1 is more accurate, the more I read her own posts at her website.

But #2 intrigues me. The Hollywood TV entertainment industry is all but bankrupt now relating to new material for storylines. The soap operas and sitcoms are boring at this point, and successful new weekly shows have so many spinoffs running that the prime time lineup is saturated with redundant storylines. Even cable news has veered toward news as "entertainment" [rather than news to be merely objectively reported] due to the boredom factor.

Yes, people are bored. And many millions have been discovering a whole new alternative reality in the blogosphere, where they can read their news with the preferred spin filters applied, whether from the Right or the Left, and be entertained at the same time as a result of the soap opera quality in blogger wars and commenter wars that often erupt. And, of course, they can post opinions and comments with complete random abandon as if they themselves were guest "pundits" invited to editorialize the topic du jour. And because the blogosphere does not operate on a fixed programming schedule, it can be "viewed" and enjoyed as real life demands allow, 24/7/365.

Whether chatrooms, Usenet newsgroups, discussion forums, or the comments sections of Weblogs, everyday people who would normally exhibit common sense seem to lose touch with a grounded reality and tilt over the edge when involved in online activities......

The possibilities for studying human nature in the strange new world of communication afforded via online activities....are endless.

Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of "crazies" online! And Frisch may simply be yet another. But you don't earn a PhD. by being stoopid. There is an almost "calculated" quality in some of what she writes, as if planned that way to garner specific responses.

OTOH, she could simply be crazy, and obsessively craves the attention her crazy OTT posts seem to earn for her. Nothing like a shot of adrenaline or endorphines for a quick pick-me-up. ;-}

Posted by: dakittster at August 15, 2006 02:41 AM

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Well....if she wasn't engaged in research before, you can be sure she'll claim that was the case if she ends up in court. I think you just gave the old nut-job an outtie.

Posted by: JamesHalifax at August 20, 2006 04:21 AM

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