McGuinty is more clever than I realized!

Posted by: Joanne TB at July 5, 2006 09:36 PM

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You know what bugs me? The constant ribbing I have to take from my friends from other provinces over what a lying, spineless, ball-less weasal of a Premier that we have.

I remember well the first election campaign that McGuinty ran for Premier. You know, the one where the Conservatives said that McGuinty is "Just Not Up To the Job". Well, Dalton, you are STILL not up to the job. You are a pathetic weakling that makes me embarrassed to be an Ontarian.

Posted by: The Grunt at July 5, 2006 09:59 PM

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You know what bugs me? The constant ribbing I have to take from my friends from other provinces over what a lying, spineless, ball-less weasal of a Premier that we have.

I remember well the first election campaign that McGuinty ran for Premier. You know, the one where the Conservatives said that McGuinty is "Just Not Up To the Job". Well, Dalton, you are STILL not up to the job. You are a pathetic weakling that makes me embarrassed to be an Ontarian.

Posted by: at July 5, 2006 10:02 PM

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Give me your property or else you get fined/go to jail?

Life, liberty, and property... at least the Caledonians still have their lives I suppose.

Posted by: J at July 5, 2006 10:50 PM

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I'd burn the block to the ground before I gave it over. Disgusting.

Posted by: Yukon Gold at July 5, 2006 10:52 PM

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If I were one of these citizens who was offered a settlement I would jump at the opportunity, seeing as how their property values will probably never go up again. Who now would actually want to move to Caledonia? If it were me I'd want to get out of there before things become even worse.

That being said, if the weak wristed mcguinty would have done his job in the first place and ordered the opp to arrest the protesting thugs it would have saved you Ontarioans a LOT of money.

I'm happy I live in Alberta.

Posted by: Dave J at July 5, 2006 11:53 PM

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Does this situation not show us all how the Federal Government should enshrine property rights into the Charter?

Wouldn't that legislation at least provide lawful citizens with some base from which to fight from?

Personally, the OPP would see a whole new meaning to the phrase "civil disobedience" if I were one of the affected homeowners and they came to remove my family from my lawfully occupied home. If they can take shots from the natives and not react they've set the stage for treatment of all who forcibly resist.

After all, the issue is about equality, isn't it?

Posted by: Jan Schaafsma at July 6, 2006 12:51 AM

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I'm usually a yappy guy, but... wow...

Suffice to say, I have never loathed a politician as I do Dalton McWimpy. If I ever saw him in person I'd have to resist the urge to jersey him and start feeding him hay-makers Happy Gilmore style.

Posted by: Brad in Waterloo at July 6, 2006 01:02 AM

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yer beginning to sound a lot like the judge, jury, and executioner steve. you should get out more. maybe take a holiday. i hear the fishin on the grand is great.

Posted by: Ottawa Core at July 6, 2006 02:45 AM

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During wartime the Russians would withdraw but only after they torched their crops leaving the invaders with nothing to eat.

Wonder how eager the local fire department would be to report to an area deemed not safe.

The citizens should take the money, but torch the building afterward. Because after all the natives only have a claim on the land they didn't have homes like these when the white make came now did they.

Posted by: gimbol at July 6, 2006 05:46 AM

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This Problem in Caledonia get worst every day. The MSM doesn't cover the story anymore because little old ladies are not bein attached anymore.

There is a petition to remove the OPP Commissioner - take the time to sign it - http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/petition.html

Posted by: Gary McHale at July 6, 2006 07:47 AM

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The comment about razing the lot to the ground is the right decision. It seems the natives start to get uppity when it looks like someone can improve the land and make it liveable with nice houses etc. The same is repeated worldwide, especially in Australia. You have to wonder what would have happened had the whites not appeared on the scene. Would the Abos still be living in their teepees fishing for their supper?

Posted by: Victor Ward at July 6, 2006 08:43 AM

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I almost feel sorry for the residents of Caledonia, but you reap what you sow. The people of Ontario(Caledonia included) voted in the Liberals, both provincially and federally. That translates directly to inaction! Maybe now people will realize that voting Liberal means you get screwed in the end. A conservative government would have ended all this bullshit by now and made the OPP do their job, but if you want to continue voting for those lying liberals then suck it up princess!!!

Posted by: Todd at July 6, 2006 08:56 AM

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Sorry Todd, but I'm not "sucking it up", because there happen to be enough sheep in this Province that voted in a Liberal Gov't. I never once voted for these clowns, because I know that a Conservative Government would have handled this in the appropriate manner.

Posted by: The Grunt at July 6, 2006 09:19 AM

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bang on yukon gold burn them it's not their houses.

6 nations only came here after the war of independance and are as native as united empire loyalists and have spent less time in canada than the french.

Should loyalists get Toronto back? Hamilton ottawa?

Posted by: DrWright at July 6, 2006 09:39 AM

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So, let's recap. The Ontario taxpayer now owns land in Caledonia, with the Provincial Liberals as landlords? What next? A Liberal mandate dictating that all mom and pop operations there double their inventory of "beer and popcorn?"

I'm hoping that the provincial liberals suffer the same fate as their federal cousins.

Posted by: Taco at July 6, 2006 11:36 AM

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The term 'provincial liberals' has a ring to it slightly more nuanced to those living in countries with geographic divisions defined as states. Liberals in that case CERTAINLY would not consider themselves provincial unless of course it is spelled 'Provencal.' Appreciate the chuckle.

Posted by: angryinthecornbelt at July 6, 2006 03:25 PM

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McSquinty and his band of thugs are going about things the right way in my mind - because with each new day another group becomes determined to not vote for them again.

As for their 'majority', there was only a 52% turnout in the last election. The Fiberals got only 11% more of the popular vote than the Conservatives, yet they ended up with three times the number of seats. (numbers rounded). They are actually representing about 26% of the electorate, a fact they seem to forget when they are acting like royalty and ignoring the taxpayers. I wish people would get off their duffs and vote, for Pete's sake.

This latest in Caledonia is typical of a so-called government with no guts, no vision and no plan.

Sure wish I'd bought that beater on Argyle St a couple of years ago....

Posted by: Selma at July 6, 2006 04:35 PM

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As a resident of Caledonia, I just wanted to say Thanks to you all for taking an interest in what is going on in our community.
I'm sure with all that you have learned, you all have a new found appreciation of your homes and towns/cities.
We used to have a beautiful little town here, and now, well, it looks like a war zone on the land claim site.
It is now the norm to have our town crawling with OPP, with an unbelievable increased presence on the weekends.
Nice for the summer eh???
It's now the norm to have at the very least 8 foot patrol officers in a two block area near the site, as well as 12 cars. That's just during the week. On the weekends, we have the large paddy wagons, the large blacked out suburbans with God only knows what in them and at the command centre, a former public school, the parking lot and playground is full of marked and unmarked cruisers. All of this, for when things are quiet. When it gets really ugly, we get the riot cops in full tactical gear, just so they can keep the peace.
All the while the Native protestors at the site, ride ATV's all night long, we hear loud music, singing and drums beating all night long, Natives shine flashlights into the windows of our homes, they drive through our quiet little streets on the ATV's threatening us by saying, get off our land, or it's only a matter of time before it's our land, or I might let you stay on our land if you behave.
We also don't use our backyard anymore, because it faces the site. In the past when we have gone out into our yard with the children, we have been sworn at, had our pictures taken (numerous times), and one morning I woke up and one of the protestors was taking a dump in my neighbours yard. He just looked at us and said, it's my land I can do what I want.
One day my neighbour called me to say that there was a Native on her lawn with a gun and a machete. Oh, did I mention that she has a 4 year old and a 6 year old and she is a single Mom.
That's now becoming the norm.
Back on the land covered by trees, the protestors are building something, with back hoes, and cement mixers, have been going onto the site for weeks now.
We can't see what it is, but hey, why should we care, it's just that there is a moratorium on the land and on one is to be doing anything with the land.
They say it's an acheological dig, it might be a buriel site.
Yeah, right, and you need back hoes and cement mixers and chain saws because......
If is was a sacred buriel ground of the Native's Ancestors, it sure doesn't seem to bother them when they are riding their ATVs and driving their back hoes and digging large holes 20' deep on the sacred buriel site.
Enough already, I think if there were bones there, you would have found them by now.
Maybe they are building an escape route to China.
Oh yeah, all of this only goes on at night, maybe they can see better at night, what do I know. Please, they are bunkering in.
One of the homes that was totally finished on the site, now has a new steel reinforced window about 6' long and 6" high, just enough for a gun barrel.
I dont' know why the Natives felt they had to have a new window like this when the home has never been lived in.
I think maybe they have been watching a bit too much HGTV, since they have nothing else to do.
Let's not forget that they are also enjoying free hydro, water and sewage, courtesy of the the McGutless government.
They get free hydro, even though on May 22, they drove a truck into our main hydro transformer, set it on fire and knocked out power in an entire region for 3 days.
Yes that's right, McGutless, just put the power right back on for them at our expense.
I think the thing that bothered me the most about that day, was when they dug up a main provincial highway with two backhoes right in front of us all and then they stood on the hydro towers that they had cut down, with their bandanas covering their faces, holding the warrior flag and cheering.
All while the OPP stood by, facing us, not them.
Yes, folks, these are our neighbours.
The funny thing is they think we should stand right beside them in there quest for their land claim.
I personally don't stand with terrorists, not now, not ever.
I did, when the protest was peaceful. They had my full support, if the land is really theirs, then the government should do the right thing.
However, you don't solve a land claim by breaking the law and commiting acts of terrorism by taking out a major utility. It this was any other group the army would have been called in.
Well that's a little snapshot of life in Caledonia, were terrorism is legal.
The OPP, well don't even get me started on them. Let's just suffice to say, we call them the Ontario Political Police lead by Gwen Bonifaceless.
Our MPP, Diane Finley, hasn't shown her face in town either, what a surprise. I guess it's not safe enough for her.
Eventually, the citizens, will get sick of all the lawlessness and take things into their own hands. Most of my wonderful neighbors, are all packing guns, this also has become the norm. Nice little town, where housing is really inexpensive.
I can't blame anyone of my neighbors for taking a buyout, the problem is, then what about the houses accross the street and so on and so on....
If the goverment does this, then they will have to buy us all out, because there really isn't a place for it to stop.
Not like other land claim issues, where the Natives are claiming land that borders their reserve, this little piece of land does not border the Six Nations reserve, it is right in the middle of a middle class neighbourhood, accross the street from Tim Hortons and right beside a Canadian Tire. So, you see, if they buy out one house, the Natives will then take over that land, and so it will continue.
We are in a heap of trouble here in Caledonia, and I urge you, no I beg you all, as fellow Canadians, to please write, email, phone, anyone and everyone to have law and order restored, Bonifaceless, to have the Douglas Creek Estates vacated and the court injunction obeyed, and to McGutless, or McNutless, as I really like to refer to him, to quite selling us down the river.
I hope none of this ends up in your backyard, however, it does appear, that 60% of Canada is currently under some sort of land claim.
The current state of land claims with the Six Nations is this, 29 since 1977 and only 1 has been dealt with.
Apparently an average land claim in Canada takes from 7- 10 years to solve.
The need to have land claims handled in an expedient, fair manner, must be dealt with.
No wonder the Natives are restless. LOL.
Anyway, thanks for the vent, and please, keep telling anyone and everyone who will listen, about our little town of 10,000 people, Caledonia, Ontario.
Cheers,
Caledonia Voice

Posted by: Caledonia Voice at July 6, 2006 11:41 PM

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To The People of Caledonia.
I am very saddened by your letter. I am also disgusted with the MSM. I have read nothing about what McWhimpy has done,(buying your homes) except from Blog sites. This, in itself, is a disgrace!
Please know you are not alone, as there are many people that are in support of your situation.

Posted by: BM at July 7, 2006 06:42 AM

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6 Nations lost the War that are fore fathers won centuries ago when they fought the Natives. Therefore suck that up and realize without Canada and its tax paying public you would be living in an even more impoverished situation. The fact that someone died years ago is the only reason the OPP and Government are being useless.

I wish I could request that my taxes not go to help Natives anymore. They were self sufficient societies before and so let them become that again. That will never happen as they love the free money and will complain and cry even more until they get more.

Its a sad situation when a society/group wants no part of the culture that supports them financially all across Canada.

These Natives here could ruin financial aid for Natives who need it in Northern/rural areas.

Posted by: Wiley at July 8, 2006 11:42 AM

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Gutless-induced displacement is more like it.

Posted by: Kevin at July 17, 2006 08:51 PM

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