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From the Edmonton Journal:

Conservative policy planners are examining the possibility of American-style Senate elections, where voters cast ballots for certain Senators on one six-year cycle, and other senators on a second six-year cycle.

The model, also used in Australia's Senate, would ensure a regular influx of fresh blood into the upper chamber since all elected senators would be required to step down after six years in office.

This is interesting, if only because of the focus on the election cycle. An upper house is generally less representative than a lower house, and in that lies the really interesting issue for Senate reform.




The Australian model is interesting, because it merges an American-style Senate with what is fundamentally a Westminster parliamentary system. Here are some choice quotes from the Wikipedia entry:

The Constitution [Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act of 1900] intended to give small rural states added voice in a Federal legislature, while also providing for the revising role of an upper house in the Westminster system.

Although the Prime Minister answers to, and must serve as a member of the House of Representatives (the "lower house"), other ministers may come from either house and the two houses have almost equal legislative power. As with most upper chambers in bicameral parliaments, it cannot introduce Appropriation Bills (bills that authorise government expenditure of public revenue) or impose taxation, that role being reserved for the lower chamber.

In practice, however, most legislation (except for "Private Member's Bills") in the Australian Parliament is initiated by the Government, which has control over the lower house. It is then passed to the Senate, which may amend the bill or refuse to pass it. In the majority of cases, voting takes place along party lines (see also: conscience vote).

There are detailed conventions and rules regarding situations in which the Senate and the House of Representatives disagree. If the Senate repeatedly refuses to pass legislation initiated in the lower house, the Government may either abandon the bill, continue to revise it, or call a double dissolution (election for both houses of Parliament) and attempt to pass the bill at a subsequent joint sitting of the two houses.

The constitutional text denies the Senate the power to originate appropriation bills, in deference to the conventions of the classical Westminister system, under which the executive government is responsible for its use of public funds to the lower house, which has the power to bring down a government by blocking its access to Supply - ie. revenue appropriated through taxation. The arrangement as expressed in the Australian constitution, however, still leaves the Senate with the power to reject or amend supply bills or defer their passage - undoubtedly one of the Senate's most contentious and most powerful abilities.

As a body intended to provide greater representation to smaller states, the Senate (like many upper houses) is necessarily relatively unrepresentative; Tasmania, with a population of 450,000, elects the same number of Senators as New South Wales, which has a population of 6 million. Paul Keating called it an "unrepresentative swill". But the proportional election system within each state ensures that Senate incorporates much more political diversity than the lower house, which is basically a two party body. Consequently, the Senate frequently functions as a house of review, intended not to match party political strength in the lower chamber but to bring in different people, in terms of geography, age and interests, who can contribute in a less politicised manner to the process of legislative enactment.

In 1975, there was a crisis in which Prime Minister Gough Whitlam had the support of the lower house, while the upper house refused to pass supply bills. The action instigated by an opposition that had more members in the Senate than in the House of Representatives, and who hoped to force an election. Whitlam refused to resign, but the government had no access to money, which is a non-confidence situation. But then he did have the confidence of the lower house. The conundrum was resolved only when Governor-General Sir John Kerr dismissed Whitlam's government and appointed a caretaker government on condition that elections for both houses of parliament be held. Australians still debate today whether Sir John did the right thing, and whether the Senate should have the power to block supply bills.

To follow the Australian model, we would allocate Senate seats to each province. In a purely American model, each province would get exactly the same number of Senators. I can't see any government in Quebec accepting that situation, sensitive as they are to having their power diluted, even if by increasing the power of a smaller province such as Prince Edward Island.

In fact, the fight over the form of a new Senate will be the most contentious one of all. Anything that offends Quebec's sensibilities with regards to what it perceives as its rightful allocation of power will never pass in the province, and become grist for the separatist mill.

So do we give every province the same number of Senators, or do we tell PEI that it will have to continue to share power with the other Atlantic provinces? How about Alberta? Alberta shares the western allotment of Senators with British Columbia, Manitoba, and Saskatchewan. How many Albertans believe that as a province, they deserve at least as much representation as Quebec, considering how much Albertan money flows into la belle province? But bring up that issue in those terms, and the fireworks begin.

I should be fair and point out the Ontario stands to lose power under the same conditions, but Ontario has traditionally not been as defensive about power-sharing, and in any case, there is no Ontario separatist party standing in the wings ready to use a new Senate arrangement as a way of winning a referendum on sovereignty.

Is a by-province approach the only model for a Senate? Not necessarily. The point of the upper house is that it is less representative than the lower house -- it can make decisions based on factors other than majority will. Some countries reserve seats for "constituents" such as trade unions or the military. Should we have one or more Senate seats for the Senators representing Canadian women? Selected how and by whom? Will pro-life women be as welcome as pro-choice? How about an equal number of seats for representatives of the male gender, or is that assumed to be true by default? Is that a fair assumption? Will women's groups give up their special seats as soon as women are elected in roughly equal numbers to men?

Is the military a constituency? Maybe in some South American countries, but probably not here. How about trade unions? Which ones? Do academics get a union seat along with auto workers? How about a seat for non-unionized workers? What happens when they vote against the union workers on bills that affect the use of non-union labour during strikes?

Seats for the Senators representing Francophones? But then don't they already have the Bloc Quebecois in the House of Commons? All Francophones, or just the ones in Quebec? And what about Anglophones? And Allophones? Would Quebec tolerate a bloc of seats for other languages that could be counted on to nullify votes from the Francophone Senators on language issues?

Do First Nations people get special Senate seats? If so, what other cultural groups? Descendents of the original British Loyalists? Pur et dur French representatives too? Immigrants?

Muslims vs Christians vs Jews? Oy vey!

Do homosexuals constitute a constuency? If so, do heterosexuals?

Who selects these special constituency representatives? Obviously not the general population. But where do you draw the line? Are fundamentalist Islamic women allowed to voted for Muslim Senators but not for Women's Senators, since their attitude to women's issues are unlike Judy Rebick's?

The American and Australian model of the melting pot eliminates this sort of debate, since in the view of their respective governments, all Americans and all Australians are the same. In Canada, however, we've institutionalized multiculturalism and feminism as government departments, creating legally recognized constituencies out of these groups and of others. Any reform of the Senate will have to tip toe around this potential land mine.

So we'll probably retain a geographically based model, but then what of Alberta and PEI? Will they tolerate a muted voice in a new upper chamber? And as soon as the Senate issue is opened up, I'll bet that someone, probably the First Nations, will demand special set-aside seats for non-geographical constituencies. But as soon as the First Nations demand it, you can bet some of the groups I've listed will realize that they can have a guaranteed voting block to push their agenda by demanding the same. Quebec will resist furiously (except on the issue of Francophone set-asides), while the others point to Quebec as having their own special interest party in the Bloc Quebecois.

It could turn into a real mess unless handled carefully.

The issue of whether to eliminate lifetime appointments in favour of a six-year election cycle will be the least important problem to solve.


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Comments

"Turn into a mess" ??

We Already have a mess so why not shake things out and re-assemble???

Posted by: PGP at May 9, 2006 11:53 AM



Why not abolish the senate?

Posted by: Johan i Kanada at May 9, 2006 01:06 PM



Or we could face reality and recognize that before you do any of your tinkering with the senate, you've got to amend the constitution.

Good luck with that.

Ted
Cerberus

Posted by: Ted at May 9, 2006 01:19 PM



Which, I suppose, you imply is virtually impossible?

Ok, status quo it is.

Forever.

Great.

Posted by: Johan i Kanada at May 9, 2006 01:22 PM



No. Johan. Please pay attention.

Steve has just posted a 1500 word essay on all sorts of whimsical senate structures but doesn't mention once that you can't simply implement them the way Harper or Steve imply. Not a word about constitutional process.

Being happy or not with the current senate structure is kind of besides the point since no one has even started any kind of serious talk about constitutional reform. Quebec has not signed the constitution yet. That's always going to have to be the first step obviously.

It's not that I think senate reform is good or bad - it's needed but the reality is a EEE senate is going to make things like equalization worse for provinces like Alberta and Ontario because they will have even less of a say than they do now - it's just realistically so far down the road.

And if Harper wants to stop appointing his friends to the senate and appoint only elected senators only, as he promised in the election, I suppose he could but that too is going to potentially cause worse problems. For example, there is no mechanism right now to remove a senator, so if I as a 36 year old got elected as a senator I'd be in for life. Not a bad gig unless the point was to introduce more democracy into our government.

Ted
Cerberus

Posted by: Ted at May 9, 2006 02:36 PM



Cerb- your logic is faulty. Should we get all the peices for a car before deciding what kind of car we want to build? Of course, we need a good reason to institute constitutional change, and Senate reform is as good as any.

(2) Its pretty hard to see how Alberta will have any less of a say than now unless your senate reform invloves cutting them out altogether. Ontario is a different story, hence the resistance to change. But dont dare say Alberta is afraid to give up power, thats Ontario's claim and theirs alone.

Posted by: Joe_Canuck at May 9, 2006 04:50 PM



I find it funny that the idea of adding more elected positions to government is such a terrible thing in this country. With the exception of Britain herself, most of the nations that have a 2 house system of government elect their upper house, and it is done to help out with regional inequities. What is more, it works. Only in Canada do we ignore what works for other nations and insist the broken way we have done it for years is the only way. You can transfer this theory of mine to health care to how we dispose of our garbage. IT doesn't matter how anyone else does it, we have to do it the way that is most acceptable to the chattering classes.

Crap, those on the left hate any new ideas that don't dovetail with their own philosophy. They say us conservatives are not positive thinkers???

Posted by: Mark in Bowmanville at May 9, 2006 10:55 PM



I've noticed the same thing, Mark. Considering the left is supposed to be the guiding light of tolerance and inclusion, most of them are extremely negative and intolerant.

Posted by: Mac at May 10, 2006 12:41 AM



"Seats for the Senators representing Francophones? But then don't they already have the Bloc Quebecois in the House of Commons? "

I'd like to point out that the Bloc Quebecois does not represent Francophones. I am a Francophone, born and raised in Ottawa and I vehemently refuse to associate myself with Quebec, the Bloc or seperatists. There is a majority of Franconphones in Quebec, true, but they do not speak for ME or for the rest of the Francophone population in Canada. I do not support their narrow minded views and despise all seperatists. The time has come for non-Francophones of this great country to realize that ones language does not make them Quebecers. There are Francophones in every provinces... not only in Quebec.

Posted by: Philippe Lalonde at May 10, 2006 08:42 AM



I prefer provinces being equally represented and having the same number of senators for each province. This balances out problems of majority population (Ontario) dictating to the rest of the country.

This might give us the opportunity for proportional representation. The left so loves that one.
enough

Posted by: enough at May 10, 2006 09:10 AM



The Liberals have set their minions out to undermine any Senate reform until their Gods breathe down the Perfect Solution.

The Conservatives know that small improvements are better than no improvements.

As it stands now, we have Senators who apparently can't read the Constitution, proposing tax hikes for which they have no legal basis: the Constitution outlaws tax matters from originating in the Senate.

Posted by: Paul O at May 10, 2006 10:47 PM