Andrew Stronach and SheTips: The main stream media and scary implications
Recall the two posts I put up concerning Andrew Stronach, brother of Liberal MP Belinda Stronach? How he seemed to be in charge of an online gambling operation involving the use of curvaceous women, elaborate computer networks to hide money trails, and offshore servers to possibly evade domestic gambling regulations?
Well, the main stream media has picked up the story.
Maclean's has added some fascinating details, details that have suggested to me a remarkable model for this operation that fits the facts as we now know them.
A model that is, frankly, very disturbing.
From Macleans:
One application for his invention [a high-tech parimutuel wagering system] is a new gaming service targeting male players called SheTips (www.shetips.com). It invites users to contact one of a bevy of buxom SheTips girls standing by to provide them -- via a central database that crunches over four million variables -- with the kind of inside tipping information that has traditionally only been available to high-rollers.
There are three ways to access SheTips -- by phone, online, or betting machines. (The latter are described as video slot machines programmed to access the central database and calculate the best odds on horses. Instead of cherries, lemons and oranges, however, they feature blondes, brunettes and redheads.) "The girls are just hostesses and salespeople," says Stronach. "By using girls, honestly, it's better because it's less threatening."
So using large-breasted women was Andrew's idea for user-friendly service for his gambling operation? Who said it was his operation? According to Andrew, he's not really the owner:
(Stronach denies ownership of SheTips -- and he won't disclose who the owner is, except to say that he also owns racetracks -- but several workers say he's the one who hired them and pays them.)
Ahem. So Andrew hires and pays the workers, but the owner is some shadowy figure? When gambling is involved, you can't help but wonder just who is lurking in the shadows.
Organized crime? That's not an allegation, but a reasonable question.
I also wonder if the owners are getting impatient, since SheTips is still just so much hot air:
So far, however, SheTips workers say the service appears to be all promotion. The company began hiring models in North America several years ago, says Gord Scoular, a.k.a. "Bikini Gord," an events promoter and former Toronto Sun and Playboy photographer, who says he helped Stronach to recruit Canadian models to photograph for the website, off-track terminals and other promotional materials. "You should see the money he was throwing around on these photo shoots with the models," says Scoular.
"When they first started shooting the girls, there were seven different looks -- swimwear, Western wear, evening gowns, lingerie, a picture with a racehorse. They would sedate the racehorse and bring it into the studio. I had to get the girls to Fargo, to Las Vegas, to France, wherever he needed me to get them. We did group photo shoots at the [Rogers Centre], on a jet airplane, on a yacht, in SUV limos. He was trying to captivate an image for his brochures."
One Toronto-based SheTips girl who prefers to remain unnamed says she's been with the company for about three years now....To date, however, she has yet to offer any tips or run any bets.
Three years?! What sort of investor tolerates pouring money into a gambling operation for three years without a single bet being placed? The site for Casino Rama was selected in December 1994 and the operation up and running in 1996 -- and that was a bricks-and-mortar operation loaded down with all sorts of government regulatory overhead and complex negotiations with First Nations.
So for three years, Andrew helps pick the models to fill in the tight T-shirts, models who do little else? Why would Andrew spend his money on these shoots?
Apparently it's not his money:
(Stronach says someone else paid for the shoots)
Again, people say Andrew Stronach is handling and dispensing the money, but according to Andrew, the money is coming from someone else. Who? He won't say.
Andrew Stronach, front man?
A front man for people who seem to be unconcerned that SheTips is not open to the public.
A gambling operation set up by unnamed financiers, with a flashy front man, beautiful women, but not actually doing anything publicly.
So why would you set up an elaborate computer network designed to place perhaps thousands of parimutuel bets automatically, but not actually use it?
Then who said the system is not being used. For all we know, the computers have been placing bets all this time. Remember, the system is designed to allow bets to placed online. That means there is an API (application program interface) to connect the betting program with a web page. But the same API could be used to interface the betting program with any other computer program, such as one that manages bank accounts, moving money back and forth.
For those who aren't aware of it, parimutuel betting is a different sort of gambling:
Unlike many forms of casino gambling, in parimutuel betting the gambler bets against other gamblers, not the house. The science of determining the outcome of a race is called handicapping.
It is possible for a skilled player to win money in the long run at this type of gambling, but overcoming the deficit produced by taxes, the facility's take, and the breakage is difficult to accomplish and few people are successful at it.
Independent off-track bookmakers have a smaller take and thus offer better payoffs, but they are illegal in some countries. However, with the introduction of Internet gambling has come "rebate shops". These off-shore betting shops in fact return some percentage of every bet made to the bettor. They are in effect reducing their take from 15-18% to as little as 1 or 2%, still ensuring a profit as they operate with minimal overhead. Rebate shops allow skilled horseplayers to make a steady income.
Follow me on this. You have large sums of money you need to launder. From where? You fill in the blank here. You use an automated parimutuel betting system designed to place thousands of bets on races 24 hours a day, a system hosted in the Caribbean, a system designed to keep the identity of the bettor separate from the bet, with the connecting information carefully stored on a computer out of reach from North American authorities.
In parimutuel betting, you can actually make a steady income, because of the unique way in which the wagers work, that is, the house takes a fixed cut instead of trying to take all your money. If you actually own the house, you don't lose any money at all!
As long as your front man never spills the beans, we might never know who is placing the bets and who owns the system.
Take your dirty money, turn it into hundreds or thousands of individual discrete bets, using a computer network to break the money up, place the bets efficiently according to the arcane and mathematically complex rules of parimutuel betting, collect the winnings, and recombine the now laundered cash. The beauty of the system is that the scheme is designed to put up a wall between the bet and the winnings.
A perfect money laundering system, since there is no way to trace the winnings back to the original source of the money, not to mention the overwhelming challenge of tracing thousands of small bets back to their true source even if you had access to the information.
Who cares if SheTips is actually active? Fact is, if it was, precious bandwidth would be used up by two-bit gamblers leering over the bodacious runners while placing their know-nothing bets. Of course, in the long run, you might want the operation running, so that the legitimate bets act as a smokescreen for the money laundering going on in the background. The dirty money bets are lost in the noise.
As a bonus, you make more money from the legitimate side of the business! As far as SheTips can be considered a legitimate business, that is.
Who knows? Maybe SheTips started out legitimately, then in the search for backers, Andrew Stronach hooked up with people willing to bankroll the operation, but for reasons of their own, weren't interested in the computer betting system being used by anyone but themselves, except perhaps as a diversion.
Let's hope that the truth is less sinister.
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Well done Angry!
This blog is everything that the MSM purports to be, but fails to deliver.
In depth investigative journalism, with the added bonus of conservative principles.
You should be making money at this.
Posted by: Another Steve at January 30, 2006 04:08 PM
What's the difference between what Andrew is doing and what many self-employed conservatives do by not declaring income and cheating on their taxes.
Please don't tell me that all conservative plumbers, carpenters and artists declare all their income and none are tax cheats. When I lived in a rural setting cash was king and few declared all their income. I know for a fact that many of these cheats were conservatives.
Posted by: Ron at January 30, 2006 04:17 PM
Uhm, Ron, this isn't about taxes. Or about conservatism versus liberalism.
Posted by: Steve Janke at January 30, 2006 04:26 PM
http://www.belinda.ca/main.asp?pageid=9
It's Belinda Stronach contact page.
I sent a short note to her office to ask some tough questions. Curious about the answers! :)
Posted by: mikeh at January 30, 2006 04:50 PM
Ron:
The purpose of the article was not to imply that all Liberals cheat on taxes, but that Belinda (who may be the next Liberal leader) has a brother that may be involved with the mob.
Posted by: Jonny_eh at January 30, 2006 04:52 PM
Hi Ron, just thought this might be of interest to you.
Ad hominem and tu quoque
Definitions: Like the appeal to authority and ad populum fallacies, the ad hominem ("against the person") and tu quoque ("you, too!") fallacies focus our attention on people rather than on arguments or evidence. In both of these arguments, the conclusion is usually "You shouldn't believe So-and-So's argument." The reason for not believing So-and-So is that So-and-So is either a bad person (ad hominem) or a hypocrite (tu quoque). In an ad hominem argument, the arguer attacks his or her opponent instead of the opponent's argument.
Examples: "Andrea Dworkin has written several books arguing that pornography harms women. But Dworkin is an ugly, bitter person, so you shouldn't listen to her." Dworkin's appearance and character, which the arguer has characterized so ungenerously, have nothing to do with the strength of her V argument, so using them as evidence is fallacious.
In a tu quoque argument, the arguer points out that the opponent has actually done the thing he or she is arguing against, and so the opponent's argument shouldn't be listened to. Here's an example: Imagine that your parents have explained to you why you shouldn't smoke, and they've given a lot of good reasons--the damage to your health, the cost, and so forth. You reply, "I won't accept your argument, because you used to smoke when you were my age. You did it, too!" The fact that your parents have done the thing they are condemning has no bearing on the premises they put forward in their argument (smoking harms your health and is very expensive), so your response is fallacious.
Posted by: BC Monkey at January 30, 2006 05:01 PM
'may' being the key word. Please ask yourself why would a kajillionaire like Andrew be invloved in the mob? It makes no sense.
My guess is, the laundering (if it really exists)is for tax evasion purposes. Probably for clients in The Caymens that want to bring clean money home with them. Hence the tie in with tax cheats.
Posted by: Ron at January 30, 2006 05:07 PM
The truth usually is a whole lot less sinister than our imagine.
Frank Stronach owns race tracks all over the united states. They made a bid deal about 1 track, that has been turned into a trailer park for Katrina Victims. Perhaps Andy is somewhat embarrassed to say he works for daddy.
As far as SheTips goes, it would be a very poor way to launder money if it wasn't an active business. The article makes the point, that models and advertising done for the company has been very expensive. People who launder money want to be quiet, not attract attention. This seems like a pretty flashy operation that would make most money laundering type people pretty nervous.
Ron, you really should get out more. I think you would find that cash is king with all trades people, (I doubt they declare every penny - but then do you?) even in the big city. I think you will find that supporters of all parties, are equal opportunity tax cheats.
This is a "Billy Beer" issue, I frankly don't care, how the family of an elected official makes a living. Its now the official conducts themselves in public life that should be evaluated when determining weather they are worthy of support.
Posted by: Curtis at January 30, 2006 05:08 PM
So BC if I said, I didn't know there were monkeys in BC, and you answered, yes there are I'm one of them. What would that be?
Oh by the way, what do you call all the attacking by the CPC that went on during the election, objective epistemology?
Posted by: Ron at January 30, 2006 05:17 PM
Sanctimonious Ron opines:"Andrew is doing and what many self-employed conservatives do by not declaring income and cheating on their taxes."
Hey Ron your Freidian slip is showing ;-)
Are you in possession of some vast body of factual evidence which allows you to make broad brush smears of specific groups as tax cheats?
If your rationale is linear then by logical extension, all self employed liberal-left people never cheat on taxes.
Pffft what a putz.
Posted by: wlyonmackenzie at January 30, 2006 05:32 PM
A much more fun way to launder money than the plain brown envelopes stuffed with cash that we are used to under the Liberal banner.
This system, however, does smell really badly--a front for organized Liberal crime? How much of this finds its way into the Liberal Party--a party that Daddy Stronach has supported in the past. The law says no corporate donations or union donations--but as this is neither--it is not against the law--not that that has ever stopped the Liberals before. Another RCMP investigation coming up? What are the laws on this type of gambling?
Posted by: George at January 30, 2006 05:49 PM
Follow the money to Kanasetake. The world's biggest casinos have their servers physically located in Canada, on the Kanasetake reserve, mostly for bandwidth reasons. Almost nobody is aware of this. We're talking tens of billions of dollars here.
Posted by: b at January 30, 2006 06:09 PM
I agree with ron.
Easy solution - flat tax.
Posted by: george at January 30, 2006 06:19 PM
one more question.
Can you have more fun with liberal girl?
Posted by: george at January 30, 2006 06:22 PM
Ron - Kajillionaires have a nasty habit of wanting to become multi-kajillionaires. Greed is the answer to your question.
Posted by: Jeff at January 30, 2006 06:38 PM
Mob? As in G-A-G?..
Bookkeeping is a Dangerous Business
The Italian community abroad is vulnerable to infiltration by its criminal countrymen. That doesn't mean that every Sicilian is a mafioso. Far from it. The most arduous mafia-fighters, like Giovanni Falcone and Paolo Borsellino, are often Sicilian. Nevertheless, mafiosi use the Italian communities to hide in, especially when they are from the same village or region on Sicily.
On a visit to Siculiana – the village on the south coast of Sicily where the Cuntreras and Caruanas were born – an elderly villager who spent most of his working life in Germany told me the story of how he was approached by a Cuntrera to 'lend' him his son. The man who had known the family when they still lived in Siculiana, did not think it was a good idea. Why, he would not tell. Nevertheless, it was clear what we were talking about.
Siculiana once counted 12,000 inhabitants; now there are only 5,000 left. During the 1950s and 1960s the village emptied, the men moved to Belgium, Germany, England, Canada, Venezuela, Brazil. Most were merely trying to make a living; others went for more sinister reasons. Some, like Alfonso Gagliano, representative in the Canadian Federal Parliament for Montreal's 'Little Italy' Saint Leonard, rose to prominent positions.
Alfonso Gagliano
Siculiana-born Canadian politician Alfonso Gagliano finally became a minister, but did not manage to stay out of trouble
Les affaires de Gagliano
The accountant Gagliano is a loyal supporter of Canada's Prime-Minister Jean Chrétien. Gagliano organized the Liberal Party's fund raising for the 1993 election-campaign. He was a candidate for a position in the new government of Mr Chrétien. The RCMP is asked to screen every probable future minister, and Mr Gagliano didn't quite pass the test. (65) The Montreal daily La Presse revealed why: Gagliano's accountancy firm kept the books of Agostino Cuntrera, a nephew of Pasquale Cuntrera and implicated in the murder of Paolo Violi, boss of the local Cotroni-family, in 1978. The murder was a sign that the Sicilian clan had taken over control in Montreal. Agostino Cuntrera was never convicted; he struck a deal with the Canadian Justice Department.
Asked about his relationship with Agostino Cuntrera, Gagliano said: "Mr Cuntrera is an acquaintance. We both come from Siculiana. I met him during a engagement in a church. He came to me in the 1970's when he wanted me as his bookkeeper for his restaurant." Gagliano et Cie kept Agostino Cuntrera as a client after his complicity in the Violi-murder was revealed. Agostino Cuntrera and Gagliano saw each other occasionally during marriages and activities of the Association de Siculiana, a cultural association founded by Mr Gagliano, who was its first president. Some years after Mr Gagliano's chairmanship, Agostino Cuntrera became president of the association.
Nor was Agostino Cuntrera the only client of Gagliano. Another was Dima Messina, the financial aid of Montreal Mafia-boss Vito Rizzuto. An RCMP investigation showed that Messina laundered 22 million Canadian dollars for Rizzuto in 1986-88. Rizzuto's Ferrari Testarossa (a 250,000 dollar Italian sports car) was registered under Messina's name.
During the controlled delivery of 58 kilos of heroin to Montreal in 1985 – the RCMP and British Customs were aware of the traffic and closely watched the transactions – one of the traffickers, Filippo Vaccarello, and an unidentified person, were observed entering the office of Mr Gagliano before the heroin arrived. After leaving the office Vaccarello proceeded with a tour of notorious bars well-known as selling points for heroin.
Bookkeeping proves to be a sensitive business for a politician. When the matter was discussed in Parliament after La Presse disclosed the facts, Premier Chrétien declared: "This Parliament would be much better off if we had more Gagliano's." >>Bookkeeping is a Dangerous Business
The Italian community abroad is vulnerable to infiltration by its criminal countrymen. That doesn't mean that every Sicilian is a mafioso. Far from it. The most arduous mafia-fighters, like Giovanni Falcone and Paolo Borsellino, are often Sicilian. Nevertheless, mafiosi use the Italian communities to hide in, especially when they are from the same village or region on Sicily.
On a visit to Siculiana – the village on the south coast of Sicily where the Cuntreras and Caruanas were born – an elderly villager who spent most of his working life in Germany told me the story of how he was approached by a Cuntrera to 'lend' him his son. The man who had known the family when they still lived in Siculiana, did not think it was a good idea. Why, he would not tell. Nevertheless, it was clear what we were talking about.
Siculiana once counted 12,000 inhabitants; now there are only 5,000 left. During the 1950s and 1960s the village emptied, the men moved to Belgium, Germany, England, Canada, Venezuela, Brazil. Most were merely trying to make a living; others went for more sinister reasons. Some, like Alfonso Gagliano, representative in the Canadian Federal Parliament for Montreal's 'Little Italy' Saint Leonard, rose to prominent positions.
Alfonso Gagliano
Siculiana-born Canadian politician Alfonso Gagliano finally became a minister, but did not manage to stay out of trouble
Les affaires de Gagliano
The accountant Gagliano is a loyal supporter of Canada's Prime-Minister Jean Chrétien. Gagliano organized the Liberal Party's fund raising for the 1993 election-campaign. He was a candidate for a position in the new government of Mr Chrétien. The RCMP is asked to screen every probable future minister, and Mr Gagliano didn't quite pass the test. (65) The Montreal daily La Presse revealed why: Gagliano's accountancy firm kept the books of Agostino Cuntrera, a nephew of Pasquale Cuntrera and implicated in the murder of Paolo Violi, boss of the local Cotroni-family, in 1978. The murder was a sign that the Sicilian clan had taken over control in Montreal. Agostino Cuntrera was never convicted; he struck a deal with the Canadian Justice Department.
Asked about his relationship with Agostino Cuntrera, Gagliano said: "Mr Cuntrera is an acquaintance. We both come from Siculiana. I met him during a engagement in a church. He came to me in the 1970's when he wanted me as his bookkeeper for his restaurant." Gagliano et Cie kept Agostino Cuntrera as a client after his complicity in the Violi-murder was revealed. Agostino Cuntrera and Gagliano saw each other occasionally during marriages and activities of the Association de Siculiana, a cultural association founded by Mr Gagliano, who was its first president. Some years after Mr Gagliano's chairmanship, Agostino Cuntrera became president of the association.
Nor was Agostino Cuntrera the only client of Gagliano. Another was Dima Messina, the financial aid of Montreal Mafia-boss Vito Rizzuto. An RCMP investigation showed that Messina laundered 22 million Canadian dollars for Rizzuto in 1986-88. Rizzuto's Ferrari Testarossa (a 250,000 dollar Italian sports car) was registered under Messina's name.
During the controlled delivery of 58 kilos of heroin to Montreal in 1985 – the RCMP and British Customs were aware of the traffic and closely watched the transactions – one of the traffickers, Filippo Vaccarello, and an unidentified person, were observed entering the office of Mr Gagliano before the heroin arrived. After leaving the office Vaccarello proceeded with a tour of notorious bars well-known as selling points for heroin.
Bookkeeping proves to be a sensitive business for a politician. When the matter was discussed in Parliament after La Presse disclosed the facts, Premier Chrétien declared: "This Parliament would be much better off if we had more Gagliano's."
http://www.tni.org/archives/tblick/aruba.htm
Posted by: maz2 at January 30, 2006 06:43 PM
Steve, you're going way too far on this Stronach thing.
As mentioned above, Frank S., through Magna Entertainment, owns all sorts of racetracks. This looks very much like Frank bankrolling his son in attempts to drive business for the tracks. The money going through SheTips looks big to some low rent Sun photog, but is really nothing compared to Magna Entertainment or Frank's other businesses. Da mob doesn't let you go on for years without getting somethign together. Mom and Dad, however, are well reputed to let the kids try what they want and support them for as long as possible. For some people, any support other than moral can only last a short while, but for the Stronachs, supporting this kind of venture can easily be an indefinite proposition.
Good on the Son for coming up with his own business ideas and trying to make them happen. It's a hell of a lot better than being given the CEO job while other people do all the work. He actually has individual responsibility, visibility, and accountability, and is much more likely to learn something useful from the excercise.
Posted by: annextraitor at January 30, 2006 07:08 PM
I am now a convert to liberalism!!
Ron's intellectual arguement is loop-hole free, and hammers home the fallacy of the entire conservative movement.
"So BC if I said, I didn't know there were monkeys in BC, and you answered, yes there are I'm one of them. What would that be?
Oh by the way, what do you call all the attacking by the CPC that went on during the election, objective epistemology?
Posted by: Ron at January 30, 2006 05:17 PM"
I guess I am feeding this troll with undue attention, but seriously, the monkey card is tough to beat.
Posted by: Pete at January 30, 2006 07:49 PM
Ron said "I know for a fact that many of these cheats were conservatives"
Did these people offer this info freely to you Ron, or are you just the towns Nosy Nelly, reading peoples mail perhaps?
Or did you conduct your own poll?
Check out this poll Ron;
http://plattytalk.blogspot.com
Posted by: Platty at January 30, 2006 08:10 PM
This is an interesting article and asks some very serious questions if Belinda S. decides to run for the Liberal leadership. If Andrew S. is completely above board, then why is he so evasive in revealing the owner of this "legal gambling operation". I read the McLeans article and wonder if Mr. Stronach might be feeling a bit of heat as he starts to realize more exposure means more questions. If anything, he may want to clear the air before he is left holding the bag. Does Canada provide the equivalent of a witness protection program?
Posted by: at January 30, 2006 08:15 PM
I wonder if Ron's "points" are to be considered "fact filled arguments" as per Dr. Dawg's claim?
Posted by: Mac at January 30, 2006 09:23 PM
Did Ron have any points? I didn't count any, but the East German judge has always been easy.
Posted by: Curtis at January 30, 2006 09:36 PM
Good "point" there, Curtis!
Funny to have someone attacking conservatives for tax evasion... what did Paul Martin do with CSL? Oh wait, it's not tax evasion which is illegal, it's tax avoidance which might be legal (especially if you're a millionaire leader of a Liberal Party).
Posted by: Mac at January 30, 2006 10:11 PM
Oh by the way, what do you call all the attacking by the CPC that went on during the election, objective epistemology?
No Ron, I would call it the truth. The Libreal party was implicated in a kickback scheme that we all know as ADSCAM. This isn't really any form of supposition. Yes, I know Chretien and Martin didn't know all the details Ron, but you do understand it was their JOB to know. CPC was under siege in the election of 2004 for various fantasies of Paul Martin, and was also under attack this time. Intelligent people saw through it, and voted for the Conservatives.
Here is another clue Ron for you to consider. If Andrew Stronach is doing nothing "wrong" then why is it so hard for him to admit the ownership of this gambling site? I don't think he is doing anything illegal actually, and think this is a bit of a mountain in a mole hill when his Dad is running Para-mutual betting all over North America, but the fact remains that much of what the Stronach's do is done for public consumption. They are never shy about who they are in bed with, except this time?
Oh well, when Frank and Andrew start buying Liberian ships, then I will get excited!!
Posted by: Mark in Bowmanville at January 31, 2006 12:19 AM
epistemology, should be the word of the day. I had to look that one up.
With the liberals, its always the pot calling the kettle. Tax evasion. secret agendas, it seems that what ever they accuse others of, its what they themselves wish to do or have done.
Ofcoarse the liberals have a secret agenda, if it where openly known, they'd be going to jail for criminal conspiracy.
Posted by: Curtis at January 31, 2006 12:40 AM
I gotta say:
Mark in Bowmanville: He registers his domain in Antigua & Barbuda and receives mail in St. Kitts & Nevis. Sure, they're nicer places to vacation than Liberia, but the point's the same.
Still, I have to be on board with annextraitor - This is many things:
-A fuzzy legal area that should be clarified.
-Gambling, booze and attractive women together (and we all know what combining your addictions can do to you!)
-Probably evidence that Frank is *once again* involved with projects that Magna Int'l really wishes he wasn't.
...but what it ISN'T is a Belinda Stronach scandal. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to stand behind a cleaner version of politics? Where we don't throw any sh*t we can find at our opponents in hopes that some of it sticks, when really all we end up doing is looking like some who throws around feces? Didn't we hate the Liberals for dragging up a 9-year-old speech and using it against us? ...for deliberately taking quotations out of context? That's the level that this is on.
The legal area around this should be fixed. It's *possible* that Stronach (Andrew) should even be investigated. But he's her BROTHER, for godsakes, not her! One would hope that we're at least a teensy bit classier than to have to stoop to some sort of guilt-by-genetics. Let's be the kind of political participants we claim to be and not somehow claim that a person is guilty of the sins of the ... brother.
There are more than enough reasons to find Belinda Stronach severely lacking in her abilities to lead a girl guide troop, let alone a company, a party or a country.
Ashley
Posted by: Ashley at January 31, 2006 12:51 AM
I agree with annextraitor. The first thing that crossed my mind when you mentioned race track owners being the silent partners, I thought of Frank Stronach.
Daddy's money given to Andrew to play with. Andrew stays in family business but wants it to look like it's his. And now that he is in warm water, he is looking to make sure daddy's name isn't dragged through the mud.
Posted by: TrustOnlyMulder at January 31, 2006 10:50 AM
Frankly I don't see anything here.
The guy wants to open an online casino, fine. The guy tries to use the 'Hooters' formula for an online casino ... Okaaaay, I haven't seen that tried before, but hey, give it a spin...
The guy happens to be related to an elected official ... and? Link it up, was this site tied into stripper-gate? Got federal grants? Got strange tax deferments? what?
All the 'facts' so far, are interesting, but its all Billy Beer...
Posted by: Curtis at January 31, 2006 12:12 PM
 
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