Maybe the fear someone would invoke the War Measures Act?

Posted by: Alan at January 10, 2006 08:55 PM

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I believe that Mr. Harper did say he would like to see a larger military presence in our cities. He said this in the context of being able to use their help in case of such things as natural disasters, storms etc. An entirely reasonable viewpoint.
The Lieberals are using his words completely and deliberately out of context. More proof of how desperate their situation has become. Mr. Martin says his values are those of Canadians. Well I for one find that a total insult, as I hope I would never stoop to their level. I hope Canadians see this crap for what it is, and recognize exactly what kind of scumbags the Liberals truly are.

Posted by: grant at January 10, 2006 09:04 PM

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Is there a web link to that ad somewhere? Because I'd really like to see it for myself - though I might then be in danger of throwing my computer out the window.

I'm voting for Peter Kent (C). And that's that!

Dr. Carolyn Bennett, the incumbent in my riding, would be just that crazy to run an ad like that (if people did for riding candidates). At the first all-candidates debate, when asked 'why should we vote for you?' she started shouting and jumping up and down, pointing at Mr. Kent while accusing him of being everything bad under the sun. Then, she turned her finger on the man who asked the question, and started insulting him!

Like I said, Peter Kent gets my vote. Bad, crazy manners are not manners befitting a MP.

Posted by: Patricia at January 10, 2006 09:11 PM

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They'll go Neg. Seems to me that I've heard this before and I hope that we start running that ad again, right away. Seems to me that we did book serious time around Voting day to countermand such crap. Disgusting pablum that I hope the baby throws back up on the Liberals.

Pat

Posted by: Pat at January 10, 2006 09:17 PM

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I guess it is much better to have roving gangs with handguns instead??

Posted by: Sid at January 10, 2006 09:23 PM

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Here's a link I posted over at FD:

http://tinyurl.com/csech

That links to the ad in question. It's nauseating to say the least.

Posted by: Chris at January 10, 2006 09:25 PM

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Damn, I didn't realize I was such a threat to the Canadian population... :P

Posted by: LC CanForce 101 at January 10, 2006 09:30 PM

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Thanks for the link Chris, you just saved me a lot of conversion work.

Posted by: BBS at January 10, 2006 09:55 PM

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Liberals . . . first they hate families now they hate soldiers.

Posted by: at January 10, 2006 09:59 PM

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CTV has all of the new Liberal attack ads on it website including the pulled Military ad.

I really enjoyed watching John "I will soon be unemployed" Duffy scramble on Mike Duffy before the French debate, saying that the yanked ad wasn't a Liberal attack ad but an idea that the production company created by themselves. It wasn't a real Liberal ad. The ads are not even a day old and already they are tunring people off. These ads are really going to backfire on the Liberals.

Posted by: Kerry D. Barton at January 10, 2006 10:10 PM

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The CTV website has all of the new Liberal attack ads on it website including the pulled Military ad.

I really enjoyed watching John "I will soon be unemployed" Duffy scramble on Mike Duffy before the French debate, saying that the yanked ad wasn't a Liberal attack ad but an idea that the production company created by themselves. It wasn't a real Liberal ad. The ads are not even a day old and already they are tunring people off. These ads are really going to backfire on the Liberals.

Posted by: Kerry D. Barton at January 10, 2006 10:11 PM

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DISGUSTING.... Slanderous even... Since the Fiberals said they would sue over things said at the beginning of the election someone at CPC should think about visiting the courthouse on Wed morning..

Moron Liberals...

Posted by: Mung at January 10, 2006 10:14 PM

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Proud to be Canadian has a better (larger, clearer) video of the the pulled ad.

Proud to be Canadian blog

Posted by: RightJab at January 10, 2006 10:33 PM

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I believe a certain Pierre Trudeau is well remembered for that.

Posted by: George at January 10, 2006 10:35 PM

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I just heard Mike Duffy from CTV getting very mad at John Duffy of the Liberals saying that he had attempted "intimidate me into not talking about the military ad". If the Liberals are gonna try to fight the media now, I might as well start celebrating. I think the attack ad campaign is the nail sealing the Liberal coffin.

Posted by: Big Makk at January 10, 2006 10:41 PM

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Anybody know what the interchange with Mike Duffy & John Duffy saying that "He will not be intimidated, that he will do his job as a journalist" in a slot between Post Debate scrums. Seemed to me that he as PO'd big time about something regarding the Liberal Military ad.

Pat

Posted by: Pat at January 10, 2006 10:41 PM

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I just saw a Liberal attack ad against the Conservatives on CTVs’ Mike Duffy today. I don’t know if its’ going to be released for mass viewing or if its already out there, but I feel that I had to say something because I am LIVID with RAGE! Now normally I wouldn’t care what a Liberal says because they can’t be trusted or believed about as far as you can throw the entire Liberal Party. But this ad doesn’t just attack the Conservatives, it attacks me and others like me! First of all the ad states that a Conservative Stephen Harper wants to locate soldiers in or near large population centres, ie cities. Then the ad goes on to say…. “soldiers, with GUNS, in OUR cities….. we’re not making this up!� This is where I went ballistic… I AM a Canadian soldier, living IN a large population centre ie Edmonton, and I cannot believe the audacity of the Liberals who are suggesting that I am going to be somehow a “THREAT!� to that very city I live in with my own family!?!? First of all, who are these people to confuse me for a threat, when I have VOLUNTEERED to serve my COUNRTY! To DEFEND the people and ideas of this nation, with ultimate liability, that namely being that I love my country so much I would give my LIFE for it! I have served on three overseas missions (ordered by the Liberal government) sacrificing time away from friends and family to serve in dangerous war zones at the behest of the PEOPLE OF CANADA in support for our ideas of PEACE and FREEDOM! Then, to have these same Liberals insinuate that I and all other military people like me, would be a threat to the very society and cities that we live in and have chosen to defend! It boggles my mind!!! I think of all the soldiers that have been killed in the last twelve years from serving this country under a Liberal government, the under funding, always undermanned with crappy equipment that always comes too little too late, always more being asked of us, and on top of it all, we have a desperate and increasingly hysterical Liberal Party now attacking the very people that they should be getting down in their knees and begging for forgiveness! An apology to all military members past and currently serving I think is what is called for right now from them! I know that this will not happen, because in the Liberals eyes, they can do no wrong (even when caught!) and they don’t need to apologize because they are the only party with so called “Canadian� values. Well, they can just kiss good-bye another 50000 votes and Anne McLellans’ riding, because it was her that got all of us moved from Calgary to Edmonton in the first place! I will now do my very best to see that the Liberal Party is wiped from existence for the utter contempt and arrogance that they have demonstrated.

Posted by: PPCLI at January 10, 2006 10:47 PM

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The defining moment

If there is to be a real turning point in this campaign it is when Mike Duffy unloaded on John Duffy for trying to intimidate the press. Never in living memory has the national press lectured a major party on the freedom of the press to report the truth.

Posted by: CD at January 10, 2006 11:00 PM

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Mike Duffy unloading on John Duffy was priceless.
Mike wanted to ask John a question something like this..
" Let me ask a question.
Who came up with this ad? What were they thinking?..."
John D. replies something like.. "Let me answer that question with another question. We have just seen a debate where issues like health care and a womans write to choose were discussed and all you want to talk about is this ad ...

Then Mike D. looses it..

Posted by: at January 10, 2006 11:27 PM

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John Duffy claimed the production company made the ad by themselves.

CTV Later showed a clip of Ujjal Dosanjh saying PAUL MARTIN HIMSELF AUTHORIZED THESE ADS!

Posted by: Mike at January 10, 2006 11:33 PM

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Here is the link to Puffy vs Duffy on CTV Newsnet tonight: http://tinyurl.com/dq5gn

Zero seats for this ad! Every serving or ex military should express their feelings to any Liberal they meet, anywhere. People died so that these people can use their freedom of speech to slander a legitimate political party, yet they feel that they can intimidate freedom of speech to say anything against such an ad. Zero seats!

Posted by: dog soldier at January 10, 2006 11:33 PM

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PPCLI,

Canadians support you and will send this Liberal party to a mass grave of thier own making.

It's all falling down.

May God bless you and your family.

Posted by: Brad in Barrhead at January 10, 2006 11:48 PM

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For some reason I can't access the exchange video from proudtobe...i get a "forbidden" message...whats the problem? Can someone please help?

thanks

Posted by: phil at January 10, 2006 11:57 PM

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Kudos to Duff for asserting our freedom of speech and double Kudos to PPCLI and all our forces for giving it to us.

Posted by: Martin Pearl at January 11, 2006 12:02 AM

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I really thought that "let's talk notwithstanding" during a debate was jumping the shark, but this. THIS !!! This is beyond amusingly inept. This is a national disgrace. The Liberals have gone way, way over the line. We need 2 weeks of hand wringing apologies AND a drubbing at the polls to assure Canadians that we actually have some sense of right and wrong, some sense of values in this country. And I don't mean LPC values.

Posted by: Dave at January 11, 2006 12:09 AM

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Martin Luther King, Jr.:
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
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The Liberals have alot to learn from someone like Martin Luther King Jr.

Our eternal thanks to members of our military; past, present and future for your commitment to protecting Canada. Conservatives will always support our troops.

Posted by: mikeh at January 11, 2006 12:15 AM

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It seems others are having trouble accessing Proudtobecanadain.ca as well, maybe the thought police hace siezed his bandwidth, that exchange between the duffy's is like a nuclear bomb to the liberals, and Joel may have the only online copy at this time....
Hmmmmmm.........

Posted by: William Wylie Ajax,Ont. at January 11, 2006 12:23 AM

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This is what a lot of people are seeing, when they try to access Proudtobecanadian.ca

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /blog/ on this server.

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Apache/1.3.29 Server at www.proudtobecanadian.ca Port 80

Hmmmmmmm...........

Posted by: William Wylie Ajax,Ont. at January 11, 2006 12:28 AM

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Check this new post:

http://angrygwn.mu.nu/archives/150845.php

The video is now on my server. Enjoy.

Posted by: Angry in T.O. at January 11, 2006 12:29 AM

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beeeutiful. One liberal ad suggests right wing republican American money bought Harper the leadership. The next says Harper is going to put soldiers with guns on city streets.

Is there any possible explanation other than the liberals want Canadians to believe Harper is the front man for an American paid for military coup?

Seriously. Honestly, what else could those ads be for? What other point is there to those ads?

(I feel like I need a tinfoil hat right now, but what the $%#%*% are the liberals thinking?)

Posted by: buckahed at January 11, 2006 12:29 AM

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PPCLI,

A fine Regiment, the PPCLI.

What to say about the Liberal attitude other than get rid of them. Duke has some fine writing on what he sees as a major wake up that is taking place in Canada.

Pat

Posted by: Pat at January 11, 2006 12:49 AM

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Everyone should contact General Rick Hillier to ask what military plans he has.

Government contact site is: Link

Posted by: Gary McHale at January 11, 2006 12:58 AM

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This reference to "guns in our cities" is rather, hmm unusual. Given that, as far as i know, I will be an with the Royal Winnipeg Rifles in Exercise Charging Bison, an urban warfare ex to occupy 6 SQUARE BLOCKS OF WINNNIPEG!!. And this, approved under Liberal Gov't :O? Wow, I am a danger to society? I am moving if the Conservatives don't win. I've already got my acceptance to Columbia in New York...this election will decide

Posted by: Bfalcon-RWR at January 11, 2006 01:00 AM

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As I've said before, the Fiberals hate the Armed Forces and the RCMP which is why they've stripped them both to the bone. The reason? The Armed Forces and the RCMP spend their lives in service to this country and it's citizens... unlike the Fiberals. The Armed Forces and the RCMP believe in outdated concepts like honour, integrity and doing the right things for the right reasons... unlike the Fiberals.

Now, I have to go email that link to everyone I know.

Posted by: Mac at January 11, 2006 01:42 AM

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Everybody just take a deeeep breath and chill for a bit, 'Kay?

This is all worthless conjecture. If the libs are elected*, Dithers will ensure all our CF will have to relinquish their sidearms, making them less of a military threat on the streets when the Conservatives are finally returned to power... :D

mhb23re
(email a/d is above username at Google webmail site)

* hahahaha !! Good one, eh?

Posted by: MHB at January 11, 2006 01:54 AM

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"we did not make this up" is a great tag line. I think the Conservatives will be saying this years from now when telling their kids how a great political machine committed Hari-Kari.

I must admit though, even if Harper wanted to control cities with the Army, the Libreals have so badly mangled the fighting capability of the Canadian Armed Forces that we would be lucky to take down Shawingian ( to pick on a Canadian City at random!!), much less any place of great influence.

Posted by: Mark in Bownamville at January 11, 2006 05:01 AM

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Sent this to the major parties today, as well as National news media.

I hope the media picks up on this...it's utterly shameful. But I've seen defence matters ignored in this country before.

To Whom It May Concern,

I have been a military officer for 11 years now, and as such have made numerous sacrifices for Canada. Until now, I always thought those in power had at the very least a degree of respect for those sacrifices as well as the high degree of professionalism my fellow soldiers and I demonstrate on a daily basis.

This evening, I saw an election advertisement by a political party that shattered this illusion. The advertisement, which critiques another’s promise to enhance a military presence in Canada’s large urban centres, implies that the Canadian Forces and its members would willingly consent to abuse the position of trust granted to it by the Canadian people. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Far from being an automaton with a gun, I am a thinking citizen of this country and would never consent to be a part of some kind of overthrow of Canadian democracy. I can say with full confidence that all of my peers feel the same way. To imply otherwise as did the advertisement in question is not only deeply insulting to me as someone who has contributed a great deal of their life to defend Canada, but to previous generations of Canadian who did the same.

Tomorrow morning, I have to provide leadership to soldiers who were hurt by this ad. I will stand in front of the men and women who serve under me and reassure them that their sacrifices are appreciated – that what they do is held in esteem by Canadians. I will try my best to have them put their self-doubt aside, and carry on with the task at hand. However, as one of their leaders it would be negligent of me to not make known the terrible damage caused by this advertisement to the morale and welfare of the soldiers, sailor and airmen who protect this country’s interests. As one of their leaders it would be negligent of me to lie down and accept the perpetuation of a negative stereotype that dogs the Canadian Forces for the sake of a few cheap political points. As one of their leaders it would not be honest of me to hide the feeling shared by many in uniform that this is yet another example of an unfounded suspicion of the military held by a portion of the political elites of this country, and that this suspicion is yet another weight on the backs of all service personnel.

Accordingly, as a private citizen, I ask that the leader of the party that broadcasted this advertisement apologize to the men and women of the Canadian Forces, and publicly acknowledge that they were wronged by this attempt to attack one of the opposition parties.

Although I do not feel as if I have violated, in my capacity as a military officer, the requirement to maintain political neutrality, I understand that some may have a different interpretation. From my perspective, I am writing this letter as a private citizen who also happens to serve in the Canadian Forces. I accept the consequences of anyone, including my superiors, feeling differently.

Sincerely,

Andrew James Duncan

Posted by: Andy Duncan at January 11, 2006 05:37 AM

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After viewing the ad, I posted an angry reply on PTBC, as my son is an officer in 3PPCLI, and will be shipping to Afghanistan for his second tour later on this month.

I was then unable to access Joel's site. I assumed that he was somehow concerned with the wording in my comment on the Liberal ad, and pulled my rights to access his site. His right to do so, as it's his blog.

Now I read that several others have lost the ability to access Joel's blog. Can someone find out whether this is something of his making, or whether indeed censorship has reared her ugly head in my country?

Posted by: Alienated at January 11, 2006 10:47 AM

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Andy your anger is justified. As a veteran and a man who has born arms in a war I respect your feelings and the job you and your comrades do under very difficult circumstances. Remember this is the bunch who could spend millions in a week to replace planes for ministers yet send our troops to Afghanistan without the right equipment.
Know that Paul Martin's ego is involved and that makes him very dangerous, as far as he is concerned he was born to be PM. He has been raised to be PM and if he goes down in history as a footnote rather than a glorious success, he will have failed. He wants to be PM in the WORST way.

Posted by: Norman at January 11, 2006 10:53 AM

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>Everyone should contact General Rick
> Hillier to ask what military plans he has.
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>Government contact site is: Link
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>Posted by: Gary McHale at January 11
>2006 12:58 AM

Done! Thanks Gary. Great idea.

subject: Coup de'ta?

I heard from the Liberals that we should be afraid of our own armed forces.

If you choose to sieze power can you please give me a heads up so I can get my family to a safe & remote location?

Posted by: Michael at January 11, 2006 11:08 PM

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