"And like sister site SheTips, Spirits and Sports supports the Special Olympics."

I was about to say, in my best Church Lady voice, "Well, isn't that special," but I don't want to make a silly pun. ;) Well, at least SheTips and Spirits and Sports are kinda sorta politically correct...?

I must say, this is the weirdest story I have seen on your blog in my short history of checking it out. :)

Has anyone asked Belinda Stronach for a comment? :)

Posted by: JulieM at December 14, 2005 08:11 AM

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Oh, by the way, Angry--does your wife approve of your, um, research on this topic? LOL!

Posted by: JulieM at December 14, 2005 08:17 AM

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I can count the amount of times I have agreed with conservatives on one maybe two hands but you raise some great points in this serious that seems seriously under reported on liberal blogs and MSM.

Posted by: Halden at December 14, 2005 08:25 AM

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I don't approve of Andrew Stronach's business venture, personally.

That said, this is THE silliest axe to grind I've come across in the election so far.

MPs and Cabinet Ministers are NOT responsible for what their brothers or sisters, or cousins, or uncles, or aunts, or siblings-in-law, or neighbours do.

When there are actually *real* issues to be discussed over why Paul Martin should be tossed out on his ear, this is the best you can come up with? Wow - can anyone say lame?

If Paul Martin manages another government, nonsense like this will be partly responsible.

Posted by: jason at December 14, 2005 08:34 AM

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If A. Stronach were running for the Liberals, then this would have some validity. As it stands you just look desperate for another opportunity to appear in the media. Sad really...

Posted by: Flanstein at December 14, 2005 08:41 AM

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If A. Stronach were running for the Liberals, then this would have some validity. As it stands you just look desperate for another opportunity to appear in the media. Sad really...

Posted by: Flanstein at December 14, 2005 08:41 AM

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Flanstien:

What is sad is your stupid spin on everything.
How can you post comments when it appears you are so blind .
You must be using voice recognition software.
Keep grinding your axe because it doesn't appear to be sharp enough!!!
Man you are such a bad joke !!!!
And very tiresome to read your comments
You have no point of view; just a liberal hack hired to spew your fecal remains on Angry.

Pathetic loser

Posted by: banjotom at December 14, 2005 09:22 AM

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Hey... I am thinking this was probably what Stronach would consider a favour to her constituents. She brought work to Aurora - a brand new company, providing... umm... do you think hundreds of jobs? Good, quality, full time jobs - who would complain?

Maybe that should be a question asked of the Liberals - how many jobs in this country were created in the last 12 years from gambling? The government was supposed to get involved in gambling to make sure Canada didn't get taken advantage of - but now with lottery in every corner store and supermarket and casinos on every corner, I don't think the Liberals have done a good job of protecting Canadians from squandering their money.

Posted by: Shane at December 14, 2005 09:29 AM

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it's funny how the liberal government is so drawn to the flame of illegal activities. i can see, once we control the sleuths at CSIS, just what apples will fall.

Posted by: Ottawa Core at December 14, 2005 09:31 AM

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Flanstein take the liberal blinders off for a moment. Angry is merely pointing out the hypocracy of the Libs. They tried to lay the blame of the actions of a PC MPP at the foot of the leader of the CPC. By those rules, Belinda should be held to account.

Posted by: Mike D at December 14, 2005 09:41 AM

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Nothing new here.
This concept is similar to a huge sports operation run the US called SbB "Sports by Brooks"
The only difference is that there is no betting.

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com

Posted by: def_dumb at December 14, 2005 09:46 AM

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Yep, this is what I want my daughters to grow up and do. They should all be able to "shift their gift" for the gaming houses.

Alternatively, perhaps Immigration Minister Volpe will hire them as "peelers", so they can populate "gynaecology row" down at the strip bar.

Yes siree, we don't want our daughters to actually have a thinking career, which involves stimulating their grey matter. Heavens, they might find out what really makes this country tick.

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at December 14, 2005 10:02 AM

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HAs anyone wondered how all of this would have played if she was still a conservative?

What would Warren have done, I would love to know.

Posted by: Stephen at December 14, 2005 10:20 AM

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"Oh, by the way, Angry--does your wife approve of your, um, research on this topic? LOL!"

Ix-nay on the ife-way!

Posted by: Angry in T.O. at December 14, 2005 10:35 AM

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Obviously, judging by these promotional concepts designed into Stronach's gambling sites, he has determined that the average idle upscale liberal Rosedale cliquish remittance class twit is motivated by his well developed corpulant libido.

Excessive wealth and too much free time have made first class sphincters out of Andy and his sister.

Posted by: W.L.Mackenzie Redux at December 14, 2005 11:28 AM

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How is this for waste.

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Maurice Strong, Paul Martin, Costa Rica
Is University for Peace Maurice Strong's Costa Rican rain forest?
By Judi McLeod
Tuesday, December 13, 2005

Within a natural reserve that includes a secondary forest and–"the last
private remnant of primary forest in Costa Rica"--is a university, which Canadian
tax dollars have supported to the tune of about $13-million.

The one-of-a-kind university, the United Nations-sanctioned University for
Peace, had a roster of 25 students when Canadian tax dollars first began being
poured into it.

On its website, the university, located 30 kms southwest of San Jose, is
described as being in a country "that opted not to have an army".

While he was Minister of Finance in 2000 and 2001, Paul Martin and his
lifetime mentor Maurice Strong corresponded regarding Strong’s "new project in Costa
Rica: the University for Peace".

Martin said at the time, "…I will encourage Minister (Maria) Minna to give
your request for funding her close, personal consideration".

On April 30, 2001 Martin invited Strong to an "off the record" provocative
discussion at the residence of Paul Heinbecker, Canadian Ambassador to the UN.

A significant amount of funds have subsequently been advanced for the
University for Peace, where Strong has been president since 1999, and where his Earth
Council was based until the council ran into problems over a land deal with
the Costa Rican government.

By 2004, the Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA), of which
Strong was also the founding father, contributed $5.7-million to the University for
Peace,

According to a CIDA briefing note, funding for the university dates back to
1997.

In 2004, CIDA’s Multilateral Branch entered into an agreement worth another
$4.2-million to the University for Peace. The money is divided up using
$3-million in Africa branch funds, $900,000 from PSec and $300,000 from the Asia
branch.

Although the university had but 25 students in 2003, there were to be 70
students in 2004. The student population grew to 82 in 2005 and the deadline for
applying to UPeace has been set for March 1, 2006.

In more recent chapters, Liberal Immigration Minister Joe Volpe put even more
money on the table with $3-million in an effort to have the university set up
a campus in Toronto to energize plans held by the Toronto Waterfront
Revitalization Corp (TWRC), which also hopes to lure the university to Toronto.

TWRC paid $12.25-million to acquire half a hectare of land for public use.
TWRC chairman Robert Fung is a personal friend of Prime Minister Paul Martin.

Although the post-Costa Rica Earth Council set up shop in the offices of a
Toronto-area environmental consulting agency, it was originally affiliated with
the University for Peace. The council is described on brochures as an
"international, non-government organization whose mission is to support and empower a
more secure, equitable and sustainable future."

A new headquarters was to have been built at the UPeace campus, but plans had
to be scuppered when the Costa Rican government began to pursue the council
for payment of US $1.65-million, for the wrongful sale of a tract of land
donated to the council.

"Intriguingly, the funds to build the new headquarters were to come from part
of the proceeds of issuing Costa Rican Carbon Bonds, a Swiftian emissions
trading instrument which entitled the bearer to emit CO2 if he paid the Costa
Rican government not to torch its own rain forest. Hence, `value’ would be
created literally from thin air, with the proceeds to flow to part of Mr. Strong’s
master plan to save the world from capitalism. At least capitalism practiced by
others." (Peter Foster, National Post, May 2004).

In 1992, when Strong was chairman of Ontario Hydro, North America’s largest
utility, one of his most bizarre recommendations was for Hydro to buy a
31,000-acre Costa Rican rain forest.

The deal, Strong contended, would be fair compensation for the harm Hydro was
doing to the local environment.

Perhaps the $13-million Canadian taxpayer supported University for Peace is
Maurice Strong’s Costa Rican rainforest.

Canada Free Press founding editor Judi McLeod is an award-winning journalist
with 30 years experience in the media. A former Toronto Sun and Kingston Whig
Standard columnist, she has also appeared on Newsmax.com, the Drudge Report,
Foxnews.com, and World Net Daily. Judi can be reached at:
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Posted by: Barrie McClarty at December 14, 2005 11:48 AM

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You guys know why Flanstein had to leave school at fifteen?

Answer: There's only so many times they let you repeat Grade 3.

Posted by: Alienated at December 14, 2005 12:31 PM

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Angry, if through this research you are exposing situations where an unsavoury business is using the logo of the Special Olympics without authorization, then you are doing the right thing, regardless of which particular website.

Posted by: Shaken at December 14, 2005 01:27 PM

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Character assassination by association to a perceived immoral line of work. Where's the beef?

Posted by: Fred at December 14, 2005 03:30 PM

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Fred: The beef?

Flogging your bod, whether for the gaming house, or for walking across the floor of the House of Parliament in consideration of a Ministerial position.

Hardly character assassination; merely how elastic is your definition of prostitution?

I think some other blogger I read coined the phrase "Belbimbo Strumpet". Nuff said.

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at December 14, 2005 03:51 PM

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Unbelieveable.... I guess we're to follow the ripper defender's adive and buy into this holier than thou crap the Fibs spew. Mind you when you have media such as the Red Star (check out their Cleaver family tie into Harper's apparent "family value" views.

Stay the course folks, we have something these Fibs don't have, the truth....

Posted by: Barrie Tory at December 14, 2005 04:01 PM

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Fred: The beef?

Flogging your bod, whether for the gaming house, or for walking across the floor of the House of Parliament in consideration of a Ministerial position.

Hardly character assassination; merely how elastic is your definition of prostitution?

I think some other blogger I read coined the phrase "Belbimbo Strumpet". Nuff said.

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at December 14, 2005 03:51 PM

Why not just say that you don't like Belinda becasue of walking accross the floor? What her brother does has no influence or meaning towards her own actions. Really grasping at straws here for a connection that is not there, haha.

Posted by: at December 14, 2005 05:56 PM

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Hey Angry, as an FYI, I'm pretty sure Andrew (unless Frank has another son) married a stripper. No doubt that's who he is using to recruit the, er, staff

Posted by: matt at December 14, 2005 06:34 PM

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"Why not just say that you don't like Belinda becasue of walking accross the floor? What her brother does has no influence or meaning towards her own actions. Really grasping at straws here for a connection that is not there, haha"

Anonymous:

Of course you believe that Belinda Stronach crossed the floor on the basis of high principles;
notwithstanding highly unfavourable reviews from nearly every major newspaper in the country. Some notable headlines I recall: "Blonde Ambition".
Peter MacKay won't say she was a sell out in public because he is too polite. If BS had high principles she could have sat as an independent, or Liberal backbencher. I'm sure PM Paul Martin could have easily chosen among a number of females for a new minister of "Human Resources and Democratic Renewal".

To quote P. Mackay from the exotic dancer file: the connection is as "transparent as the dance of a thousand veils."

The connection is pretty obvious between Belinda and Andrew; it speaks to ethics and what you will do to get ahead. But of course ethics and government and business are of no concern to the Joe Average Voter as they relate to the evironment in which they live.

So to suggest that AGWN/myself is grasping at straws, merely suggests that the stable needs cleaning out; as the droppings have begun to pile up. Seeing that we should be focussing on a new stable; I wish you Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at December 14, 2005 06:51 PM

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This is very interesting background information on Belinda's family. Since she's the closest thing in Canada we have to a Hollywood celebrity sort who still lives here, I'm surprised E-Talk-Now hasn't come knocking on your door for this story. :-)

Posted by: saskboy at December 14, 2005 07:26 PM

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I can't believe that I am going to defend this twit, but???

Stephen, THANK YOU!!!

Although generally I support Angry's opinions and views, I am curious to know what the reaction would be if MS. BullShit was still a loyal member of the Conservative Party. I fear that all of her detracters here would be rallying to her defense: stating that the actions of her brother aren't hers and therefore are irrelevant.

This post was low. A waste of space and not worth the time it took to write. I expected more from you.

Cheers

Gerry

Posted by: Gerry in Montreal at December 15, 2005 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by Hans: "Of course you believe that Belinda Stronach crossed the floor on the basis of high principles"

Please show me where I said this or even remotely implied this. You should clean your glasses and try being objective about something instead of reactionary and angry haha. It's conservatives like you who give real conservatives a bad name. If you think you have evidence that Belinda is doing something illegal with her brother then put it on the table, if not keep talking and confirm that you're a fool. Belinda crossing the floor and the way her brother spends his time have nothing to do with each other. If you need a reason to be angry with her then find legitimate reasons, not made up ones. lol

Posted by: Fred at December 15, 2005 11:35 AM

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"Why not just say that you don't like Belinda becasue of walking accross the floor?" Your words Fred. The high principles commment was rhetorical and probing; rather than stating as fact that you held that opinion. Presumably, you have read Angry's post in its entirety and not just skimmed it.

Second, I have never required glasses.

Third, who is angry, other than "Angry in the Great White North"?

Fourth, "evidence that Belinda is doing something illegal with her brother then put it on the table"

I wasn't the one drawing the parallel between Andrew and Belinda's ethics milieau. I haven't alleged illegality, if one did have knowledge of same, presumably one would call the RCMP, rather than posting on a web page. For all I know Andrew is just "skirting the issue" of online gaming and female company; I am not a client of his.

Although Belinda crossed the floor to a party indicted by the Gomery Commission Report, which she had denounced, and voted against on at least four instances in the two weeks before she walked.

The discusssion speaks to credibility, ethics, and believability for BS who is again aspiring to government office.

Angry stated "Now here's an interesting parallel...." it did not state there was a strict logic or causal connector. You are asking the wrong person; I didn't draw the bow and fire the arrow.

As far as harlotry is concerned; there is the strict Criminal Code version and the common street usage as given in the definition below:

1. The act or practice of engaging in sex acts for hire.

2. The act or an instance of offering or devoting one's talent to an unworthy use or cause.

Again, how elastic is your definition of prostitution, is it the narrow legalistic one or the broader common language one in item 2?

I think Angry's post was linking on the basis of the second definition.

IE. "cut from the same stone, apple doesn't fall far from the tree, etc."

I remain "foolishly" yours

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at December 15, 2005 02:00 PM

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Oh I understood what he said and what he was implying. Feigning innocence while at the same time supporting such a ridiculous position is pretty silly. You're are defending an arguement that says that by virute of being born from the same parents that the actions of one necessarily 'rub off' on the other condeming both. Using such an argement to expand on the reasons for disagreeing with belinda's betrayal of the conservative party doesn't seem to bolster it at all. Each person is responsible for their own actions and I would like to see any evidence philosophically or scientifically that that isn't the case.

Btw, rhetoric is not something that is looked upon very highly, not to mention defending arguements with absolutely no basis upon even a cusory glance.

Posted by: Fred at December 15, 2005 06:27 PM

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Well seeing that the Liberal party was the one importing strippers from overseas, maybe the dot connector wasn't obvious to you. That keeping the stripper immigraton program open might be a benefit to AS. BS crossing the floor had the effect of giving AS a guaranteed supply of beuaties for his online gaming adventures, as Minister Volpe didn't cancel the program as he indicated he would? You can check Hansard on the latter.

So far, that is just conjecture, one would have to check the immigration records and match up with employment records to make the causal link have real teeth. It should strike one as curious don't you think, given the corruption laden government we have been served up?

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at December 15, 2005 08:48 PM

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Andy married a former stripper. I know because I introduced them back in 1990. She is the puppet master behind this scheme. Investigate her! Andy been trying to piss his father off for years.

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