Hey, the upside is if the Torys win you maybe be able to get a Senate seat......by runnning for it in an election!

Posted by: Spencer at December 5, 2005 03:20 PM

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It's never too late to take it all back, Angry.

That Senate seat isn't so far off, you know...

Posted by: Temujin at December 5, 2005 03:33 PM

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Different Topic:
Peter Warren @ CKNW radio in Vancouver Had Smileing Jack and Harper on his show on Saturday Morn. (www.cknw.com)see audio vault 11:05 am Saturday. He asked the question to each, would you access private medical care if your wife was sick and she was put on a long wait list? Jacko basically said she could suffer and wait for the public system service. Harper said he would access private care to help his family.
Today warren had PMPM on and he dithered around the question then when pressed he said he would wait for public care to work. Again listen to interview at (www.cknw.com)audio vault 10:54 am Monday.
When I hear PMPM stuttering and stammering when asked a question I know he is being a stranger to ther truth. Today his stuttering and stammering was very noticeable. Everyone who clled in later basically said hes a liar, or, (Maybe he Just HATES his Wife.)

Posted by: captbob at December 5, 2005 04:06 PM

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Let' sbe clear, er fundamentally, clear, ahhh, about pervate medical, er care, that is, private care in this country, in Quebec 'nd elsewhere, ....

MPs cry foul; Paul Martin's doctor runs private clinics

CBC OTTAWA - Opposition politicians are calling Paul Martin a hypocrite after finding out that his personal physician heads a private health care clinic in Montreal.

Dr. Sheldon Elman is the founder and CEO of the Medisys Health Group. He has been Martin's doctor for 23 years.

Martin says he's never used private health care. In recent months, he has been touting the Liberals as the protectors of medicare while painting the Conservatives as the party that wants to privatize services. >>>

http://paulmartintime.ca/mediacoverage/000476.html
(This website/blogger shut down as a result of "libel chill" by PMO/PCO Martin).

Posted by: maz2 at December 5, 2005 04:41 PM

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(Child Care) The Liberal/Socialist Way!

1. Announce 5 Billion dollars for child care...
2. Build or buy or lease (from loyal liberal) office building in Ottawa...
3. Populate building with loyal liberals, friends and family...
4. Demand provinces do the same...
5. Denounce all who disagree...

...It's now the Provinces turn...

1. Announce joining federal child care plan.
2. Copy steps 2 and 3 above...(with provincial flavour).
3. Announce only NOT-FOR-PROFIT centres to be funded.
4. Pass legislation all child care workers, must be government certified/accredited.
5. Force unionization on workers
6. Ban all non-accredited babysitters.

After all the thousands of bureaucrats take their cut, I suspect there will be around
100 million left to give to needy mothers looking for child care...

...Wow 100 million out of 5 billion...

Hiring your little sister or mother-in-law to babysit, will be against the law.
Striking child care workers will become all to common.

We can't let the liberal/socialists create another gigantic do nothing paper pushing
bureaucracy, for their friends and family, with jobs for life.

The conservatives are offering a better way..!!!
Stand up for Canada..!!

Long live truth justice and the Stephen Harper way.!

Posted by: B Wylie Ajax, Ont. at December 5, 2005 06:41 PM

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Spencer,

I had the same thought about a Senate seat for Angry if Harper wins. :) Angry is certainly a deserving candidate, for all his unpaid work on behalf of the people of Canada. :)

And Wylie, as for this:

"Jacko basically said she could suffer and wait for the public system service. Harper said he would access private care to help his family."

First of all, is there anyone who believes Jack Layton on this?

Also, this reminds me of the loaded question posed to Michael Dukakis in the 1988 debate. At the time, Dukakis faced the charge that he was "soft on crime" because Massachussetts had a furlough program and a criminal, Willie Horton, had raped and killed a woman, iirc, while he was out on furlough.

Bernard Shaw asked Dukakis (the candidate was noted for being against the death penalty), how he would react if Kitty Dukakis were raped and murdered. Again, I'm not certain, but I believe Kitty Dukakis actually was raped at some point.

Anyway ... not wanting to get pinned down, Dukakis responded with an emotionless, totally unbelievable answer that pretty much killed his chances.

When faced with a choice between ideology and taking care of your own family, people understand that people take care of their family. It's a basic human survival instinct.

Any social service is rationed. I highly recommend the book "The Russians" by Hedrick Smith (from the '80s). In communist/socialist countries, it's rationed by political and business connections. And for the little people, the government (Hillary's "single payer" method) makes decisions about who is worth spending money on, who will die the quickest, etc.

In capitalism, it's rationed by who can pay.

I think a combination of the two, in the health care area, serves the greatest number of people in the most efficient way possible.

And by the way, the horrible, super-mean United States actually does have many public programs, such as Medicare and Medicaid, local sliding scale clinics, and COBRA health insurance extensions (they cover people for a limited time who lose their insurance after losing their job), to take care of those who are less well-off or who lose their insurance.

Plus the fact that it is illegal for a hospital emergency room to turn away someone with a grave emergency. Yes, there can be bills, staggering bills, for those without insurance, and that is a problem.

I'm thinking of a case in Colorado a year or so ago--a guy somehow nailed a four-inch nail into his head (he HAD to have been drunk, REALLY drunk, LOL!), and miraculously, he survived.

Of course, the family was uninsured and now have thousands (probably tens of thousands) of dollars of bills, but he still has his life.

Posted by: JulieM at December 5, 2005 07:16 PM

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Try getting the liberal supporters to say anything good about any CPC policies, I am just AMAZED at the amount of denial some are in. Accusing parents, if one is at home, of then buying alcohol and cigarettes??? Video Games?? What in hell are these people smoking?

Off topic but is anyone else having trouble getting to several other blogs tonight? SDA seems okay but Political Staples, Calgary Grit, Waking UP on Planet X, to name a few, seem to be down. Hey, are Conservative blogs being shut down on us? Also interesting that I sent a seething email to CBC (seriously freaked out voter!), threatened to put all their news broadcasts on DVR and review them for bias, etc., use it to complain and as evidence. Well, three days later ALL news broadcasts on CBC have no sound at all, the commercials come on and sound is back, commercial ends back to nothing, all other programs are fine. Not kidding you, it will be two weeks on Thursday. Called the cable company, thought it might be them but they are stumped, just this station. I am one of about a dozen in our area this is happening to, it's just weird! Okay, I'll admit it is almost certainly a coincidence but with the blogs tonight I am starting to get a teensy big paranoid!

Posted by: Anne (mad in Ontario) at December 5, 2005 08:37 PM

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Looks like all the blogger blogs are down - anyone that is XXXX.blogspot.com

Posted by: pale at December 5, 2005 09:02 PM

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Thanks for letting me know, that includes you too?

I'm telling you, they are taking us down piece by piece, Angry and SDA are next! ;->

Posted by: Anne (mad in Ontario) at December 5, 2005 09:12 PM

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