Listening to the radio this am, one of the reporters for fox news said he met an individual nammed "Foot Massager" at camp Cindy... All he appears to do is massage feet... He even got photos of this guy giving Cindy's toes the treatment... aparently the guy never gets further than 3 feet away from at any time (metaphoricaly of course). Maybe he's helping console her for the loss of her husband...

Something else I found interesting was that Cindy's claiming in her on-line diary (yesterday - on mikie moore's website) that there are more than 700 people with her at crawford... The reporter noted above has the actual figure pegged at around 27...

here's the link: http://www.michaelmoore.com/mustread/index.php?pageNumber=2

Posted by: Richard Evans at August 13, 2005 10:22 AM

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Have you seen this interview with Cindy Sheehan?: http://brentrasmussen.com/log/node/117
This exchange regarding her children was particularly appalling:

DS: How are your three other children coping with Casey's death and do they have any issues with the role you've assumed as a critic since that tragedy?

CS: Carly the oldest has coped by throwing herself into school. Andy is coping by becoming Casey. Janey is coping by drinking and partying.
Unfortunately, I am not able to help them that much because of my pain, and because I feel so compelled to fight the injustice and bring the troops home.

Posted by: Elizabeth at August 13, 2005 10:43 AM

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You mean Cindy Sheehan wasn't totally honest when telling CNN why she and her husband broke up??!?! Holy Christ, call the freaking cops.
You guys are going to rot in hell, seriously.

Posted by: Terrence at August 13, 2005 11:13 AM

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This should be required reading for everyone.

http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/2005/08/message-to-cindy-sheehan.html

Posted by: Gary at August 13, 2005 11:32 AM

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I see you only had one moonbat comment "Terrence." That's pretty mild by comparison with some of what I've seen.

What is it that these folks do not understand?

Do they simply expect that someone who creates a media franchise out of her son's noble sacrifice should go unquestioned?

Are here free speech rights more important than the public's need to place them in context?

They wish to elevate this woman to sainthood and woe be unto those who dare to question her motives or methods.

More interesting questions regarding fundraising for groups affiliate with her and the "volunteer" labor and materials that were used to remodel her home are valid questions for someone who puts themselves so clearly in the public spotlight.

Posted by: Mike on Hilton Head Island at August 13, 2005 12:44 PM

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We're going to rot in hell because we won't stop pointing out that the Left's latest heroine is a pathetic freak, representative of nothing but dementia. You know what's more common than a berieved mother becoming a political activist? A berieved mother becoming a religious nut. If Cindy Sheehan were too busy saying the rosary and going door to door with religious pamphlets to help her children get over their grief over the death of their brother, would people like Terrence be carrying her on their shoulders and telling us how "authentic" she is? Would they be snarling with rage when we suggest that she's cracked up and needs professional help? No, they wouldn't, because a religious obsession is no use to them, whereas an anti-Bush political obsession is.

Posted by: Wanda at August 13, 2005 01:01 PM

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Hey, Terrence? How come Cindy keeps lying about her family support, her meeting with President Bush and the number of people supporting her in Crawford? Why does she say shit like "the secret service is going have me killed"?

Just wondering.

Posted by: Fred at August 13, 2005 01:07 PM

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"CS: Carly the oldest has coped by throwing herself into school. Andy is coping by becoming Casey. Janey is coping by drinking and partying.
Unfortunately, I am not able to help them that much because of my pain, and because I feel so compelled to fight the injustice and bring the troops home."

This woman beats all. She has abandoned her children so that she can wallow in her own grief. "I am not able to help them much because of my pain" - no wonder two of her kids are in Europe and the other is elsewhere.

Posted by: Candace at August 13, 2005 01:24 PM

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Instead of proing over the transcripts of every interview this grieving mother has ever given and looking for inconsistencies, perhaps one or all of you might consider doing the same with the platform of lies that was constructed, by Bush and his criminal administration, to justify a war that led to her son's death.

God forbid someone - from any point on the political spectrum - demand an accounting for this insanity.

Yeah, keep on believing she's not sincere, or deranged, or whatever will help you sleep at night while you smear a woman who's given more to this illegal war than any of you could even contemplate.

Posted by: Steve at August 13, 2005 02:15 PM

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Bush Criminal Illegal war Lies chimpy Halliburton Hitler plastic turkey flight suit

I'll sleep better at night when we start addressing the fifth column in this country.

Posted by: jimg at August 13, 2005 02:39 PM

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perhaps one or all of you might consider doing the same with the platform of lies that was constructed, by Bush and his criminal administration, to justify a war that led to her son's death. Isn't that YOUR job, Steve? What, are we supposed to fight your battles as well as our own? Besides, we're busy. Leftist lies are 6 feet high and risin' - tracking them down is a full-time job.

Posted by: Wanda at August 13, 2005 02:43 PM

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I don't know who is offensive, self-absorbed activist Cindy Sheehan, or the reporters and editorial writers who are trying to make her out to be a just an average grieving mom with no agenda and no ties to the far-left anti-war crowd. She's dishonoring the memory of her brave son who not only volunteered for the Army, but volunteered to go to Iraq.

Far from "mourning the death of her son," she is exploiting it to promote the anti-Bush/anti-war/anti-America agenda. She doesn't really even want to meet with Bush, as she admitted when asked on MSNBC, "isn't it really better if President Bush doesn't meet with you?" She said, "I would think so, yes. I think it's great. And if he would come out right now, it would really defuse the momentum," (Countdown 8/12/05).

And why should Bush talk to her? "If he gave the real answer...that it was to make his buddies rich, that it was about oil..." (LA Times 8/11/05) "George and Dick, you are both shameful cowards who are sending our brave young people to die to make yourselves and your buddies unbelievably and fabulously wealthy," (LewRockwell.com 4/11/05). "...it seems like the invasion of Iraq and the deaths of so many innocent people were preordained. It appears that my boy Casey was given a death sentence even before he joined the Army..." (U.S. House hearing, 6/17/05).

She blames Congress too: "every member of Congress who voted to give George the authority to invade Iraq have innocent blood on their hands." (LewRockwell.com 3/23/05). And the military: "They were all lied to by their recruiters who will tell young people anything to get them to enlist, then deliver nothing...I have some speculative evidence that he was actually killed by friendly fire. The military lied to us..." (DemocracyRising.Us 5/30/05)

As for the conservative media: "Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Michelle Malkin, Matt Drudge...They are despicable human beings..." (MichaelMoore.com 8/10/05). She must like the mainstream media who's giving her so much airtime, right? "The mainstream media is a propaganda tool for the government..." (JoeTrippi.com 8/10/05).

And what of her innocent sounding organization with the copycat name--Gold Star Families for Peace? "We are lobbying Congress to have an inquiry into the lies that caused Iraq. We are trying to meet with the Sec of Defense to hold him accountable for the lies. We campaigned against George Bush during the elections. We are working on Counter-recruitment." (DemocracyRising.Us 5/30/05)

Last fall she appeared on ads exploiting her son's death to help John Kerry, and this summer she made ads for the radical Marxists at Code Pink calling for Bush's impeachment. Now she's doing wall-to-wall interviews, blogging for Michael Moore, and will soon be on tour with the communist-infested and rabidly anti-American United for Peace and Justice anti-war coalition.

People who would trade on the sympathy of an entire nation to promote a political agenda don't deserve that sympathy. And for the record, my younger brother is serving in Iraq, and people like Cindy Sheehan only give encouragement to the maniacs who would love to kill him. If he gets killed I won't blame Bush. But I will blame people like Cindy Sheehan.

Posted by: Larry DeRobio at August 13, 2005 02:48 PM

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Thirty years after Vietnam, it's fascinating to see that it's OK to spit on veterans -- or their mothers -- again. They just have to criticise George II.

Get a life, you pathetic losers.

Posted by: Scott at August 13, 2005 05:18 PM

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I don't see anyone here "spitting on veterans and their mothers". I see Americans who can spot a phony a mile away. I'm a proud member of a Marine support group and know some Gold Star moms. They are NOTHING like Cindy Sheehan. They carry themselves with pride, knowing that their sons did a job they believed in and did it with the certainty that it was the right thing to do. Are they grieving? Without a doubt, but they are using their grief to make things better in this world. One mom has taken her son's place in the Toys for Tots drive at Christmas, and others are using their bitter knowledge of grief to help others through the same process--but, to a woman, they are dedicated to honoring their beloved children's sacrifice and their greatest fear? That we will forget what their warriors did. Cindy Sheehan is a shameless opportunist and I have no doubt that her son would forgive her, but he wouldn't thank her.

Posted by: Janis at August 13, 2005 06:06 PM

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"This woman beats all. She has abandoned her children so that she can wallow in her own grief. "I am not able to help them much because of my pain" - no wonder two of her kids are in Europe and the other is elsewhere."

Oh.. and I suppose the parents who brought the little boy that was brought to Florida to participate in the bread and water protest for Terri Schiavo... were being "good parents". Yep.. encouraging a little boy to get arrested and thrown into a police car to bring food and water to a woman who physically could not eat or drink... is "better parenting"

If Cindy's Kids were there.. you'd be saying she's exploiting them. And you damn well know it.

Posted by: MWW at August 13, 2005 06:32 PM

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Cindy Sheehan is represented on Michael Moore's webpage. That says a great deal to me.

Posted by: wyck at August 13, 2005 06:37 PM

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Personally, I'm sick of Mrs. Sheehan. The MSM has featured her morning, noon and night and she has dominated talk radio programs. I'm sorry her son was killed and I thank him for his service. However, she is dishonoring his honor with her actions. She is playing right into the MSM, the left-wingers, the Michael Moores, Move-on.org, etc. MDD

Posted by: MDD at August 13, 2005 07:32 PM

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While we can certainly understand Cindy's grief over the tragic loss of her son, Casey, there are definite questions on her motives here.

She changes her stories like a Chamelion changes color, to fit her sitauation at the time she is telling the story. If Cindy Sheehan's credibility is being called into question it is her own fault. She cannot get her stories straight. Several of her accounts have changed with time, not just one or two. It is not the "conservatives" that are bringing this point to bear, it is the very MSNM who interview her.

We conservative talk show hosts and bloggers are merely pointing out that she has been inconsistent with her accounts of meetings with the President and of her family situation at this time. That information has been brought to the publics attention first by the MSNM such as WaPo, CNN, etc..

If this woman were supporting President Bush and she was changing her stories constantly the MSNM along with the left wingers would be screaming from the rafters about her credibilty.

It is sad to see that groups such as Moron.org and individuals such as Michael Mooreon are using this woman to promote their own pathetic agendas. Although it is certainly not surprising.

Casey Sheehan is a HERO and should be remembered as such, he joined the military freely and volunteered to go on a rescue mission to help save his commrads who were in need of help. What he shouldn't be remembered as is a liitle boy whos mommy didn't want him to be in the military and he got killed. Casey Sheehan was a man and he proved it !

"Greater love hath no man than to lay down his life for another"

Posted by: J.R. at August 13, 2005 07:38 PM

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"If Cindy's Kids were there.. you'd be saying she's exploiting them. And you damn well know it."

One of her kids is there, in spirit, and she is exploiting him.

I damn well know it.

Posted by: Rich at August 13, 2005 07:44 PM

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Cindy Sheehan has not changed her story. If you read the words quoted, it says that she and her husband chose different ways of dealing with their son's death. She chose to be an activist and he chose to remain inactive. It is not two different arguments for the couple's separation it is the same argument.

Secondly who cares what her in-laws think. She says she hasn't talked to them much since they support this war based on lies and in fact she says she hasn't spoken to them since they re-elected the murderer of her son.

Lastly, she's planning on being there for the whole five weeks of the President's vacation (which is ridiculous since we're fighting the war on terror) and that is plenty of time for her children to come to Crawford.

Posted by: Anthony Walker at August 13, 2005 08:06 PM

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I note that both the Left and the Right tend to make Heroes out of not just the victims of "something" but also their families, who are empowered by their supporters with a Higher Moral Authority. Then the newly minted Demigods are free to preach and demand from persons in authority or the public in general - special rights and privileges.

And NO one has the right to question them or whoever does will be greeted with Outrage and How dare You!!! tactics.

The Bitterer they are, the better their odds of celebrity and total media deference. At the pinnacle, the Cindy Sheehans, Kristen Breitweisers, the Schindler Family - might just be in a media whore circle as prominent as the Glitterati - in this case the Bitterati...

Sometimes Bitterati get careers out of it as victim spokepersons. Sometimes they get stupid symbols of their celebrity grief foisted on the public. And the Right has their stupid monuments - like the POW/MIA flag that normally honors people that don't really qualify as POW/MIA at any given point, and even when some soldier is actually a POW or truly MIA and not 99.999% certainly dead - something true only at very brief points in the last 30 years, it is a miniscule fraction of the total military population already honored by Memorial Day, Vets Day, and countless other official celebrations. Yet we have that stupid black flag around like a pudgy gray pony-tailed hippie - a relic of the 70's that just won't go away and may be joined soon by a railbow flag with a AIDs ribbon.

Posted by: Cedarford at August 13, 2005 08:10 PM

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Actually, MWW, you are wrong, I don't believe the parents you mentioned were examples of "good parenting," not if they allowed it to the point where their son was arrested.

It sounds like Cindy's kids are old enough to make up their own minds, so if they WERE in Texas with her, I'd assume it was of their own volition and that would be that.

Regardless, parenting is supposed to be about putting your CHILDREN's needs first, not your own. It doesn't appear that Cindy Sheehan is capable of doing that, which is too bad for her children.

Posted by: Candace at August 13, 2005 08:42 PM

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Jesus you right-wingers are shameless. I mean, it's one thing for the republican establishment to resort to character assassination as a political strategy. But c'mon, is attacking the messenger the only way you guys can avoid dealing with the message?

Let's look at the hitlist...

John McCain: War hero... Call him a traitor.
John Kerry: War hero.. Call him a traitor.
Joe Wilson: Public servant... Call him a traitor.
Michael Moore: Filmmaker... Call him a traitor.
etc.

It goes on and on. And the guy who avoids military service is a hero?

it's like 1984 or something.

So you freak out about who recommended Wilson on that 'plumb assignment'-- I still dont' understand why it even matters-- so that he's apparently a liar or a traitor.. or both.. or maybe a flip-flopper too.

Now Cindy Sheehan. If her son were alive, you'd call him a traitor too, no doubt-- he opposed the war but felt it was his duty to go serve with his friends. But while looking for an "in" to smear her with you come up with the fact that she initially-- in shock at the death of her son-- decided to play "nice" to the press when she met Bush and later came to her senses and realized she was betraying her son's ideals to do what you believe is the right thing... And then she dares to describe her marriage problems in two different ways on two occassions! Egad! As if interpersonal realtions are only about one thing and there's no connection between her son's death and her feelings about the war..

Well, this all apparently makes her a "flip-flopper" (an inventive term I haven't seen before), which is, I guess, your "in" on how to attack her, as if she's running for public office or something.

Anyway, it's just kinda sad how, confronted with a message you don't like, it's always attack, attack... No boundries, no shame. Just attack.

But I have to wonder. Ultimately, are you doing it to convince others, or to convince yourself?

Lefty

Posted by: Lefty at August 13, 2005 10:02 PM

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"But I have to wonder. Ultimately, are you doing it to convince others, or to convince yourself?"

Lefty, have no fear... every time they post crap like this, they are making a Hillary Clinton 08 Victory, an absolute certainty. So for your sake.. I hope they keep at it.

And that's pretty goddamn sad... because as evil as George Bush is, Hillary Clinton is going to be moreso.
Although Cheney in 08 would be worse.

But there is not stopping these people. They actually think that they are doing something with all their vicious and disgusting attacks against Cindy.. a woman who has done NOTHING to them...

They ought to be ashamed.. but they have no sense of shame. They are sociopaths.

Posted by: MWW at August 13, 2005 10:16 PM

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Clealry, Kerry is not a war hero.
Wilson has been proven a liar.
Michael Moore...well, he is who he is.

Posted by: wyck at August 13, 2005 11:12 PM

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Speaking of sociopaths MWW, could you please explain to the group how you'd like to keep your people down with welfare programs, segrigation and reparations? This is information we need. Please. Are you an educated, enlightened native Canadian or simply a silly twit? Fill us in...

Oh, please fix the link to your real web site. The current one showing doesn't give anyone any real insight into your true personality...

Posted by: Richard Evans at August 13, 2005 11:14 PM

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If Cindy Sheehan is telling the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, then her son was incapable of intelligent thought. Read this:
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0805/251443.html
and tell me how re-enlisting, as a MECHANIC, was being lied to? He WAS out of the line of fire, but then VOLUNTEERED on a rescue mission, which is why he died.

Yo, MWW. Try doing some research before trashing everyone in sight.

Posted by: Candace at August 14, 2005 12:36 AM

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Her current website is

http://blankouttimes.blogspot.com/

She uses the psuedonym Edward T. Bear.

Posted by: Kate at August 14, 2005 12:47 AM

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Refreshing to see a site which is mostly rational about Ms. Sheehan. Didn't Casey voluntarily reenlist in 2004 when the Iraq war had already started? If this is indeed the case, Casey apparently did believe that fighting this war was worthwhile.
By her own testimony, she (a) was liberal even when compared to other democrats (comparison to husband) and (b) was a democratic activist (read hack) prior to the 2000 election and strongly disliked Bush at that time (open letter).
Her loss of her job and her separation from her husband have nothing whatsoever to do with her. Rather, they are purely Bush's fault. Evidently, Bush directed the US military to shoot Casey down in cold blood. Or better yet, according to her, Bush himself picked up a weapon and shot her son personally.
She clearly is not well.
These statements will progressively become more and more well-known. Eventually, even the mainstream media will have to acknowledge these statements. They discredit the opponents of the war as screaming hysterical wild eyed communists (code pink) who advocate complete total abandonment of Iraq to the terrorists right now. She will do for those who oppose the war (prior to its commencement) what NARAL did for the pro choice citizens and abortion rights groups who want to oppose Roberts. She will make it impossible for them to be taken seriously by the mainstream in American society. She completely discredits the movement.
No responsible democrat will support a total complete and immediate withdrawal of our troops from Iraq. I doubt that you could find (or even buy) a single vote from a United States senator to support that.
Just as Rush was running the NARAL ads after NARAL pulled them, to give them equal time, perhaps, Rush should give lots of air time to someone reading these statements that she has made (ie that the military shot her son and lied about it, that the recruiters lied to her, that every Congressperson (e.g. Hillary) who voted for the war has blood on their hands). We have quite a few choice statements to pick from, so it is hard to pick the best one. Maybe we alternate. Finally, responsible democrats will be forced to pay for a good pschiatrist for her. Good luck to whoever that person might be.

Posted by: Robert at August 14, 2005 12:47 AM

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"Canada needs institutions to lock up the Indian Activists and Apologists" Kate McMillan, of Delisle Saskatchewan. On The Shotgun, Dec 31st 2005.

"Bring Back the Residential Schools" Kate McMillan, Small Dead Animals, various blog posts.

Obligatory Googlebot fodder.

Posted by: MWW at August 14, 2005 03:32 AM

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"Speaking of sociopaths MWW, could you please explain to the group how you'd like to keep your people down with welfare programs, segrigation and reparations? This is information we need. Please. Are you an educated, enlightened native Canadian or simply a silly twit? Fill us in..."

This is a lie. You find anywhere that I have advocated that welfare is a good, or for segregation or for "reparations".

Why do you lie Richard?

Are you like Kate McMillan, who can't make it thru a post about Indian people without telling lies....

You should really check out Ian's website.. where he has detailed Kate McMillan's bigotry and lies in pretty good and sharp detail.

http://www.ianism.com/

"Canada needs institutions to lock up the Indian activists and apologists" Kate McMillan, The Shotgun, Dec 31st, 2004.

"Bring back the Residential Schools" Kate McMillan, Small Dead Animals, various blog entries and comments

Posted by: MWW at August 14, 2005 03:42 AM

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> No, they wouldn't, because a religious obsession is no use to them, whereas an anti-Bush political obsession is

Wanda, say it isn't so? The Left, using a mother's grief to promote their agenda? Naaaawwwww. THAT can't This woman beats all. She has abandoned her children so that she can wallow in her own grief.

Candace, Ms. Sheedevil isn't involved in grief. She's not involved in guilt. She's promoting her agenda, which her son almost certainly disagreed with, using her son's death as a promotional tool. That's neither grief nor guilt, it's either narcissism or one of the most coldly calculated self-serving acts I've ever heard of. By her actions, she repudiates just about everything her son stood for, and died for.

That is dishonoring him, not honoring him.

By this, Ms. Sheedevil is scum. The leftists helping her in this are also scum. I'd say that to their faces, too.

Posted by: at August 14, 2005 05:51 AM

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> No, they wouldn't, because a religious obsession is no use to them, whereas an anti-Bush political obsession is

Wanda, say it isn't so? The Left, using a mother's grief to promote their agenda? Naaaawwwww. THAT can't This woman beats all. She has abandoned her children so that she can wallow in her own grief.

Candace, Ms. Sheedevil isn't involved in grief. She's not involved in guilt. She's promoting her agenda, which her son almost certainly disagreed with, using her son's death as a promotional tool. That's neither grief nor guilt, it's either narcissism or one of the most coldly calculated self-serving acts I've ever heard of. By her actions, she repudiates just about everything her son stood for, and died for.

That is dishonoring him, not honoring him.

By this, Ms. Sheedevil is scum. The leftists helping her in this are also scum. I'd say that to their faces, too.

Posted by: Nick B at August 14, 2005 05:51 AM

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> And for the record, my younger brother is serving in Iraq, and people like Cindy Sheehan only give encouragement to the maniacs who would love to kill him.

Good luck to your brother, Larry, but also realize that a large part of the "insurgents" there are not even terrorists fighting for a cause, but simple criminals whose goal is to keep the government weak and helpless. This is one key reason for attacking Iraqi policemen -- if they are demoralized and discouraged, recruitment goes down, and it will take that much longer to subdue any criminal element involved in it... which means more profits for these scum, for a longer period of time.

That's not to suggest that none of the resistance is legitimate, just that the MSMs don't make any distinction.

For more info, I recommend you look into the late Steven Vincent's blog, In The Red Zone as well as the excellent blog of Michael Yon

These two are (or were, Vincent was killed a few weeks back, but Yon is still right on-target) far better sources of what is happening there than any of the MSMs, including Fox.

Posted by: Nick B at August 14, 2005 06:02 AM

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> She completely discredits the movement.

I thought Howard (I Hate Jews) Dean, Jimmy (I Love Dictators) Carter, Michael (I Love Saddam) Moore, and Dick (Gitmo Gulag) Durbin had already done that...

What damnfool went and offered them still more credit?

That movement's already long since publicly declared bankruptcy... and we ain't talking about the reorganizational variety...

Posted by: Nick B at August 14, 2005 06:20 AM

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"Cindy treated it [the Quartarolo letter] with a shrug. Her husband will send out a more detailed response soon. In the meantime, Cindy says the letter is to be treated as little more than bad, dumb noise."

The more detailed response has been released. He filed for divorce.

Posted by: A Person at August 14, 2005 09:33 AM

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Thanks for the warped insight into Kate's point of view MWW, now, please give a look at yours... PS where did your blog go?

Posted by: Richard Evans at August 14, 2005 09:38 AM

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MWW is Meaghan Walker Williams. When her libel starts in earnest, she slips into monogram mode, usually followed up by various one or more of her various split personalities who chime in with "Me too!".

Note her complete absence of any links to the quotes she provides.

I expect she'll be after "Debris Trail" next.

http://www.ianism.com/?postid=628

Posted by: Kate at August 14, 2005 11:13 AM

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Bush could have invited this woman in for a private glass of tea and it would all have disappeared. Why didn't he? Becuase he has no soul.

This woman is a genius. She knew this incompetent mediocrity we must call president would never do the simple, human thing and talk to her as a person. She knew this was a way to expose his soulless, cold, amoral emptiness. And in sites like this, we see the true nature of his followers exposed as well. Sycophant suck ups. Moral hypocrites. Coldhearted bastards.

All you creeps had to do about Cindy Sheehan is shut up. Bite your tongues. Let an American mother exercise her rights as a free American courageously. But you are all such cowards, suck ups to the cowardly leader you worship, that it outright TERRIFIES you to see someone exposing his soulless mediocrity. So you do what wingnuts do. You shamelessly abuse her, the way Rush has taught you, the same Rush who degraded an Iraqi vet running for Congress in Ohio as a "staff puke".

You people are disgusting. Only 34% of the country still supports your fratboy's war. Deal with it. You lost, and your draft dodging fratboy is going to smell of this defeat to high heaven before he mercifully goes off to the retirement he's been waiting for all his coddled life.

Posted by: Jane at August 14, 2005 09:48 PM

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Jane is right. In the name of free speech we should just shut up.

Posted by: The Warden at August 15, 2005 04:05 AM

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No, Warden, in the name of common human decency you should just shut up. If you feel the need to slime any and all opposition to our one party rule, in the name of the dear leader you worship like toadying sychophants...then pick on someone your own size. A cowardly chickenhawk perhaps, a fat blogger who sits on his ass and does nothing to stand up for his own principles. Leave the mother of the dead American soldier alone. If your president is such an awesome man, he should at least be man enough to deal with her on his own. Why are you so afraid of the criticism of one righteous woman? Is your weird little blueblooded elitist of a president so weak and vulnerable that he can be damaged by the simple request of an American citizen - a citizen who has given more than ANYONE on this site - to speak to him human to human and simply address the consequences of his decisions? I know he is a weak little coward who never once in his life had to deal with the consequences of his reckless incompetence. His resume reveals that. But you all are the ones who lick his feet for your own pleasure. Do you also hold him in such low regard?

Posted by: Jane at August 15, 2005 05:17 AM

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Jane. I'd like to discuss it with you but janedoe@gmail - is that yr real address?

Posted by: storyx at August 15, 2005 06:58 AM

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No Jane, you lost. Ever true test of support that the President has needed, he has prevailed. They are called elections. I know that idiot Marxists like your think elections are less important than polls, but fortunately, you do not make the rules.

You are so consumed with bile and hatred that you would cackle with glee at every american setback or loss of life, as long as it suits your political agenda. My nephew, that I raised, served in Iraq during the opening phases and is now in the States. He is soon to ship out to Kuwait for a long term assignment. He has said to me that grief-stricken woman (Sheehan) is crapping on her son's memory and she is an embarrassment to military parents everywhere.

His opinion carries a thousand times more weight with me than your America hating does.

Posted by: Log cabin at August 16, 2005 02:42 PM

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Meaghan,

Is it true that you are using a sock puppet (Edward T. Bear) at Blank Out Times to analyze your own arguments on other sites? And that you are sometimes posting as both yourself and the sock puppet to the same sites, even the same threads?

Posted by: John T. Kennedy at August 16, 2005 08:02 PM

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CC Beck:

Hi John,

Nice of you to stop by.
Is it true that you defended your scientologist buddy Dr.Piazza weilding the government against Dianh Hsieh to shut her up for talking about his association with the dangerous cult of scientology?

You suggested that he had the "right" to do this, don't you recall? Even though SLAP suits like that, and simply making shit up about people to destroy them and their professional lives and careers is part of the Scientology "doctrine" of "fair game".

(oddly enough, this has been on of Kate McMillan's MOs for quite some time. You should go review her comments over at her blog, where she spoofs an address, and falsely attributes comments to me... because that's the only way she can deal with critical analysis and commentary of her position on various things... Like for example... her suggestion that Canada needs institutions to lock up the Indian activists and apologists... AND her proposal that Canada needs to recreate government run residential schools for Indian Children... AND her cheerleading for Marc Emery to spend the rest of his life in prison for selling marijuana seeds)

I have taken Kate McMillan exactly on the terms that she engaged me. She has called for my and my relatives' children to be locked up in residential schools and she has personally called for me and other aboriginal people like me to be locked up, merely for expressing disagreement with her over Aboriginal issues.

You see... here's the backstory Kennedy:

When over a year ago on the Shotgun, she erased my comments, because I was beating her soundly in a number of debates... she then took to editing my comments, and falsely attributing statements to me... because that was the only way she could control the situation.. short of having me banned alltogether.

I have documented proof of this from back then, and even currently on her own blog right now.

When the Blogging Tories and the Conservatives on-line who blather about "The Blogger Creed" didn't think there was anything wrong with the Usenet equivelent to "rogue cancels" and "spoofing", I was willing to meet them on EXACTLY the terms that they met me.

My attitude was "well.. if that's how it's going to be.. then fair enough. Turn-About is fair game"

Anybody who wants to claim that anonymously blogging is inherantly wrong, or that somebody who has a fucking nutcase white supremacists trailing them on the internet that is willing to make false allegations of sexual abuse against you in order to score points in discussion should just leave themselves OPEN for that kind of malignant and malicious behavior...

Well... that's your choice.

Do you know where I live John? Do you know about the Florida Department of Children and Family Services? What do you expect will happen to me and my children, if some FREEPER asshole decides to take Kate McMillan's criminal defamatory libel, and accusations of criminality against me to the next level? Would you look at the climate that we live in John. Take a good long look at this blog, and what's happening to Cindy Sheehan and her children. These people have NO compunction whatsoever about reaching past their computer screens and making you *pay* for saying things that they don't like.

And that's exactly why I started to post Anonymously. Billy actually knows some of the reasons. And he might fill you in on them, if he's still talking to you at this point.

And to think, just this afternoon, I was blaming your behavior towards Billy on mere stupidity.

Now I know that there's something more mendacious involved.

Why are you "gaming me" John?

I'll tell you what John.. I feel pretty much the way Billy does about that.

And the other laugh in all this is that the "big reveal" on the Blank Out Times... comes from Kate McMillan and now *you*.

There are approximately 35 people who currently read the Blank Out Times every single day, who have known for a very long period of time who was posting there. Christ, any damn idiot with a google search of usenet could have figured it out within the first couple of weeks. Sure, my identity was "hidding" John.. it was "hidden in plain site"

But thanks John for stripping it away.

If you go back thru all of Edward Bear's posts.. you will note that only a short time back did we resort to pulling a "Lung" kind of effort on some of the action.

Posted by: MWW at August 17, 2005 06:41 AM

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Oh Kate,

I'm frankly suprised that it took you this long, considering the number of people who have known for... months actually who was responsible for ET Bear.

Ask Debris Trail about his thoughts on your post of my picture with the other one under of the Abu Gharib Prison scandal.

He was/is *disgusted*.

He also said, I'm a hell of a lot more patient with you than he would have been.

Ditto for your thoughts on Residential Schools for Indian Kids, as well as your suggestion about Locking up the Indians.

Quite Frankly Kate... it's only Sean, and Richard Evans at this point who are willing to back you up on that. I've got emails from Darcey *and* Raskolnikov who denounced those suggestion in no uncertain terms.

Darcey has known my identity for a few months, since a London Fogger let it slip.

I'm impressed that Darcey never told you.

Posted by: MWW at August 17, 2005 09:26 AM

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Meaghan,

Why am I gaming you? You posted to my blog as two different people. And that was to protect your family? That doesn't make a bit of sense.

Posted by: John T. Kennedy at August 17, 2005 12:35 PM

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I've posted further comments on Meaghan's sock puppet theater here:

http://tinyurl.com/ccfkf

Posted by: John T. Kennedy at August 17, 2005 07:30 PM

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